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• Sharon (The Backseat Stylers)

  Isis King was not crowned with the ANTM All Stars title; she came in 12th place. Lisa D’Amato won.

• Samantha

  I believe the form stated that contestants were to have been born female and thus her disqualification. She is adorable – very Ivanka. 

• http://twitter.com/littlesebastien Sebastien

  she’s beautiful, what a shame they revoked her win

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ERDSZOOPOITNDF3GS45TPSRZP4 Jeff

  “She’s a man baby!” – Austin Powers

• Anonymous

  Pretty Shameful, I guess she’ll have to wait for the… Mr Universe contest.. and then go on as a woman?

  Stupid old fashioned rules.. I guess this poor woman will have to wait for a transgendered Ms Universe…. which will never happen.

  I guess we’re just telling this woman she doesn’t belong in our society.. *sigh*

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FNNAQSCCVRDJRXLM5YBS4WP5HQ jay

  My kind of Chick, a Chick with a D*ck. Oh Yeah!

• Anonymous

  According to Denis Davila, national director of Miss Universe Canada,
  rules state to participate in a Miss Universe franchise pageant each contestant must be a “naturally born female.”

• Anonymous

  I’m confused, is Tyra Banks a transgender also?

• http://truth-and-opinion.dyndns.org/ mavigozler

  That definition of “naturally born female” is troublesome.  I recommend a more legally insurmountable definition.  Biological science has now clearly established that the Y chromosome contains a locus (the sry gene) that is the genetic determinant for maleness.  At a certain point in embryonic development, the expression of a gene switches development to being male.  Failure to express that gene means the fetus will be female.  A simple PCR diagnostic test can establish that the gene codes for the function that establishes maleness (including any identified polymorphisms that are not inactivating mutations).  Thus it goes beyond just mere karyotyping to establish the presence of a Y chromsome, but instead establishes the master control genetic switch that directs the development of the male.  The burden (the costs) of establishing femaleness would be on the contestant.  Indeed, all of us at the time of birth could have the test done and be issued a certificate of sexual identity which we carry with us everywhere.

• Anonymous

  She was…transgender people are genetically ALREADY male or female, based on brain chemistry and chromosomes. The fact that their genitals don’t match up is what is corrected surgically and hormonal therapy re balances their body chemistry. People are appallingly ignorant about transgender people.

• Anonymous

  No, she is legally and biologically female. 

• Anonymous

  Just because you say you are a woman does not mean you are a woman.  He was born a boy.  Perhaps I should put a saddle on my labrador retriever and call it a horse.  Yes, it is silly, and so is calling yourself a girl when YOU ARE A BOY.

• Anonymous

  Hey, he chose to be this way.  There’s a lot if sh_t that comes with that decision.  Besides, what is shameful about not letting a male into a pageant with females?  That is exactly what he is asking them to do.

• Anonymous

  Perhaps it is you who are trying to make excuses for people trying be soomething they are not.  Even a pedophile makes excuses as to why he does the things he does.  It is easy to make an excuse for something you selfishly want to do.

• Anonymous

  You know, you can point out any number of birth “defects” that happen from time to time, that are seprate from this.  That does not mean they are the norm.  They are due to a genetic (or other)  issue that deviates from the norm.  I suppose I could call my dog a cat, huh?  Or, put a saddle on my dog and try to ride him because I want him to be a horse…  By the way, yes that is silly.  But, what’s the difference? 

• Anonymous

  I’m glad they are standing up for common sense.  Good for them.  I mean, it’s a pageant–it’s not that important.  As a matter of fact, it’s useless.  Why would he want to be part of it anyway?

• Anonymous

  I think there may be a potentially prickly legal issue beyond this one contestant. If transgendered who have completed the process are allowed to compete, then fairness may dictate that the door be opened to those who haven’t completed the process but who just as fully self-identify as female.

  The argument might be that a transgender who can’t afford or doesn’t want surgery to complete the process shouldn’t be penalized and disallowed to compete. Who would be the arbiter of whether someone is “female enough” to participate? If there are no criteria, then any guy could cross-dress and participate.

  So while it seems unfair for this one particular contestant, I think there’s also the overall big picture to consider. If it’s accurate that the contract requires contestants to be “natural born females,” then legally the pageant was within its rights, and I can see why they might feel that requirement necessary.

• Anonymous

   Gender isn’t binary. 

  Who are you to tell her what she is and what she’s not?

• Anonymous

   She’s a ‘she’, you closed-minded fool.

• Anonymous

  Equating transgenderism with pedophilia…  Absolutely pathetic.

  What I find interesting is that you’re pretty active on this thread, spreading your ignorance and intolerance.  You seem to be a little too concerned with how others choose to live their lives.

• Anonymous

  That’s a really ignorant way of putting things, being a pedophile is not comparable to being transgendered. Being a pedophile is praying on weak young children, while being transgendered is you changing your body.

• Anonymous

  Whoops, not a “he.”  The story states that Canada recognizes her as female.  No need for thanks, I’m happy to clear that up for you.

• Anonymous

  What the hell is ‘common sense’?  As I know it, it’s frequently cited to justify the status quo.  It was once ‘common sense’ to keep blacks and whites segregated. 

  It doesn’t matter why SHE wanted to be part of it.

• Love of Country

  I presume “she’s” representing the state of Denial?

• Anonymous

   when the kickstand goes so does membership in the boys club…….She is not male.

• Anonymous

  Whoops again, jefwel.  She is not a boy.  She is a woman.  I don’t know what you call your labrador retriever, don’t care, actually, but science has given us many new discoveries, one of which is many people have gender confusion at birth and are physically or emotionally a different sex.  Thank heavens you don’t have have an identity crisis and are secure in being a man.  Or woman.  Hard to tell from just your name.

• Anonymous

  Oh, jefwel, you’re really disappointing me now, almost as if you are prejudiced against new ideas and proven facts.  Tsk, tsk.  At any rate, she is a woman, and sorry you can’t understand complicated, technical details that science is proving for us every day.  You’re probably more comfortable not learning all of these new things.  Sorry!

• Anonymous

   LOL if a girl is concerned about competing in a beauty contest with guys in drag then she must have bottomed out in the self esteem department and should not be competing in the first place…….the big picture is discrimination is discrimination no matter if it can hide behind law or not.

• Anonymous

  *Sigh.*  Educating people is so hard, but maybe you’ll catch on one of these days.

• Anonymous

  Perhaps the criteria could be whether Canada recognizes the person as a female or male.  In this case, there’s no question that she’s a woman, certified by Canada.  Cross-dressers would be filtered out through this process.

• Anonymous

  What would she be in denial of? 

• Anonymous

  Well, see, there you go, thought you posted a real snapper of a comment and it falls flat.  Sorry, but maybe next time you’ll use facts as a basis for your opinions.

• Anonymous

  By now, jefwel, I think I almost know you, and I’m concerned that you seem to be real anxious to ride that dog.

• http://truth-and-opinion.dyndns.org/ mavigozler

   You’re right:  the sry gene product may not be the ultimate absolute in determining maleness/femaleness.  But legalities are involved here, and the sides in a legal debate need to have some clear understanding on terms and conditions before executing any contract.  As biomedical research discovers more facts regarding the human condition, including our notions of gender, the legal definitions related to gender can be modified.  By all means, if you have data that should be considered in distinguishing gender, propose it.

• Anonymous

  So what’s the solution then? Fully transgendered allowed, fully and partially transgendered allowed, anyone who simply claims to identify as female allowed, unisex pageants, something different?

• Anonymous

  That sounds fair enough, Merry. Are only those who have completed surgery eligible for that legal recognition in Canada (if you know)?

• Smack80

  Besides they have provinces in Canada! 

• Anonymous

  C! anyone who simply claims to identify as female allowed.

  Come on now if a real girl can not beat a girl with a elongated external vag-j-j in a beauty contest should she really be in the contest?………….I’d vote for unisex but that would make for a unwatchable bikini competition and we all know that is what it is all about.

• Smack80

  Or maybe we could get past beauty competitions all together. They objectify and demean women.

• Anonymous

  Why do you think I am attempting to tell him what he is?  I don’t have to make that distinction–he is a male.  Period. 

• Anonymous

  Oh, and how do you kow that there is a scientific explanation for this male wanting to be a female?  YOU DON”T.  You know, it could be that he just wants to be a girl.  However, he is a man.

• Anonymous

  Well, I’m a horse.  Yesterday, I was a tree.  This is a ridiculous conversation.  It is utterly stupid to think that you can just become any biological being you want to be.

• Smack80

  One big difference is, she wasn’t born a labrador. We’re not talking about trans-species. What part of this makes you so uncomfortable? Have you talked with any children that are transgendered? Has your son been bullied at school because he is perceived as being a sissy, or too girly? Do you actually have any life experiences to back up your fear? You need to get out of your bubble and find out what is really going on in the world. Life is not black and white, mostly it’s gray.

• Anonymous

   Without a doubt, the best solution of all, Smack!

• Anonymous

   Sorry Smack that just is not true  the women involved enjoy being the center of attention. I work with actresses  dancers and to some extent models and they all have one thing in common , they enjoy the attention , same goes for their male counterparts.  Fact is there really are some girly girls out there that enjoy the oogling   , I bet you even know a few yourself.

  Now those kid pageants yes 100% I agree they need banned , but if a adult wants to strut her stuff for inspection I will gladly provide the spotlight and cat whistles.

• Anonymous

  Oh, really.  Why don’t you take a poll of how many people feel that if a person is born a boy, he is a “boy.”  And, if they’re born a girl, she is a “girl.”  I honestly feel silly even having to point this out to you.  Even small kids understand this.  Just because very small minority feel that they can change thier does not mean you change your gender.  Why on the hellk do you think those folk have to go through so much surgery and hormone therapy, among other things, to become “something else?”  I guess if I want a poodle tomorrow, I could give my labrador retriever’s hair a perm, and then stop feeing him so much that he loses weight and gets skinner, and then have some surgery on him, and THEN her will be a poodle!  I know you will say that this is different…  How?

• Anonymous

  Once again, jefwel, NOT A “HE.” But you go right ahead and believe what you want to, as prurient as it may be.

• Anonymous

  The similarity is in the fact that they both(sometimes) claim to be biologically “wired” that way.  Of course it is not a question of comparing the legality of the two.  I am specifically referring to the notion that people will use any excuse they can to justify theri behavior.  It’s not rocket science, you should be able to understand my meaning without me having to explain. 

• Anonymous

  It’s not like she is a competing in an Olympic sport. Anyway, I think beauty contests are outdated and a tradition from a bygone era.  

• Anonymous

  Jefwel?  Are you OK?  Are you hyperventilating?  I think you should sit down with a cool drink and stop trying to think for a while.  Put your feet up and be comfortable for a few minutes because it’s obvious this whole conversation is distressing you.

• Anonymous

  Ok, Einstein, I’m not referring to the act of a pedophile…Geez.

  I am referring to the fact that pedophiles, for example, will use the excuse that they are “wired” a certain way to excuse their behavior.  It is an EXCUSE.  Not a reason, an excuse.  None of us take that excuse for anything but what it is–B.S..  So, why do we accept this excuse for a boy wanting to be a girl?  If you accept that arguement, then wouldn’t we have to allow for a person to use the excuse that they are ”wired that way” for anything they wanted to do?  Please tell me:  Where do you draw the line?  That is because there is no line. 

• Anonymous

  If you need a law to tell you what is right in front of you, I feel sorry for you . 

• Smack80

  I have no doubt that the women involved enjoy it, but that’s not the point. When women are attacked politically, by both sides, it usually includes something about their looks. When women are interviewed for employment, their appearance is a major factor. I know men who have dumped their wives because the “let themselves go”, meanwhile they have potbellies and saggy man-boobs. Beauty pageants do nothing toward the advancement of women as working, thinking human beings.

• Anonymous

  Partner, it has never been “common sense” to keep blacks and whites separated.  That was a choice.  That is an ignorant comment.  As for real common sense, if you can’t tell a girl from aboy, maybe you don’t have any.

• South Park Conservatives

  Oooooo boo-hoo.

• Anonymous

  ChocoKat, it hurts my know-it-all-ego to say it, but I really don’t know everything, the Canadian Sex Recognition Criteria being an example.  I usually aim for logic and reason, but that’s not always appreciated, even by governments.  Go figure.

• Goldie

   Jefwel, please do not hurt that poor dog. I understand that you are angry and confused. But, that gives you no right to hurt that poor animal.

• Anonymous

  You know, you make yourself look really bad when you say that being a pedophile is a choice and not something you can be geneticially pre-disposed to. Are you saying that all men want to have sex with pre-pubscent girls? and that the only men that don’t are the ones that have strong wills? That sounds vaguely like what Muslims believe…

  The fact is, and no one wants to confront it, that being a pedophile is a serious brain malfunction. The only reason someone would want to do that is because of something different in their brain, from evolution probably. It doesn’t excuse their behavior but it’s not an “excuse”, it’s more of a fact. We can’t imagine what goes on in those people’s brains, but with talk like yours you’d rather condemn than cure… and one day science will be able to cure pedophiles… because unlike being gay or transgendered pedophiles need a cure because they are sexually attracted to sexually destroying children. They get off on harming people, trangendered and gays do not.

  Trangendered people feel they are born into the wrong body.  I don’t really see a problem with transgendered people switching to their “true” gender, it doesn’t effect me and it doesn’t hurt anyone.

• Anonymous

  Please explain to me these “proven facts” you mention.  Why is that these transgenders have to take so many artificial hormones?  Why do they have to have surgery to remove a penis or creat a vagina?  Don’t you realize that they are ALTERING WHAT YOU WERE BORN WITH.  They are injecting you with artificial things to make you something you are not!  It is not rocket science. 

  Please explain to me the “proven facts” you mention.

  Also, please enlighten me on why a transgender has to have so much drastic work done to themselves to change gender.

  Also, please explain to me how this different, say, from my question of wanting my male labrador retirever to be a female poodle. 

  Please educate me. 

• http://profile.yahoo.com/RKLFFXBQV4Z3EL2WBZQ2CAPMC4 Jim

  Do you think the application rules should’ve also mentioned that water is wet and gravity holds us to the Earth?

• Anonymous

  Can you give me an adult answer to my question?  What is the difference? 

• Anonymous

  Calling my opinions on this fear is really stupid.  It seems that any time someone has an opinion that is not the same as, perhaps, your’s, it is called a fear.  There are lots of folks who disagree with my point of view, yet I’m not so stupid to call it fear.  Why in the world do you call it “fear?” 

• Anonymous

  Here’s some data that you guys seem to overlook:  if you are born with a penis, you are male; if you are born with a vagina, you are female.

  Pretty simple stuff.

• Anonymous

  Can you please answer my question?  Your argument is that I’m incorrect.  Yet, you refuse to answer my questions.  Please tell me why a person has to go through so much major surgery and therapy to “change” gender.

• Anonymous

  Thanks, Merry. I appreciate the reply! I agree about logic and reason, and I think your proposal is a good one.

• Anonymous

  That’s funny.  However, I’m not the one who can’t figure out male from female.  That’s just sad.

• Anonymous

  I hate to burst the bubble but we are all judged on our appearance to some extent or other. That said every thing you mention has most certainly occurred and is deplorable but the key to changing that is changing a girls opinion of themselves from the get go. Start at the root , the advertisers that promote a fictional unreasonable definition of beauty and more importantly teaching your daughters to spot this propaganda and ignore it. The key to change is women themselves , in the way they carry themselves and interact with others. Eventually there will be no contestants for these pageants.

• Anonymous

  Regarding your “pedophilia is not a choice” statement, using that logic, what type of crime WOULD BE called a choice, then?  With your logic, any crime could be excused away by saying that there is something in there brain that makes them do it.  I know we’re not talking about crime in our inital point, but the focus here is on making excuses for what you believe is right, when, perhaps, it is not. 

  Again, couldn’t you excuse ANY behavior using your logic, as being a “brain” issue?  Please enlighten me. 

• Anonymous

  Sorry to disappoint you but, if HE wasn’t born with have a womb, HE is a man.

  Just because you live in a garage doesn’t make you a car.

• Anonymous

  Sorry in my book if SHE cant write her name in the snow legibly, standing up……….her man club permit is permanently revoked. Wombs are disposable but a penis is indisputable ether you see it or you don’t

• http://truth-and-opinion.dyndns.org/ mavigozler

  What value is there in a completely uninformed opinion such as what you posted?  Why is it that the greater the ignorance, the less likely it’s accompanied by humility and a recognition of the need to be modest and not loudmouthed?

• Anonymous

  Sorry to disappoint you but, if HE wasn’t born with have a womb, HE is a man.Just because you live in a garage doesn’t make you a car.

• Anonymous

  I’m not excusing anything just trying to point out the difference between a pedophile and someone transgendered.  Something is different in a gay/transgendered persons brain too.. but the key is that it doesn’t harm others. Even though pedophiles do have a problem in their head that might not be their own fault, they are not allowed to infringe on the rights or others are cause harm to others, that’s why pedophilia is a crime while being gay/transgendered is not.

• Anonymous

  How about we just stop these cattle calls for women to parade around?  that would solve the entire disgusting problem eh?

• Anonymous

  A penis can be disposable too, if all you’re using it for is writing your name in the snow, watch out for the frostbite!

• Smack80

  Because, in my experience, most intolerance is based on some sort of fear. If not fear, ignorance.

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

  can it biologically have children?

• guest

   George-Parkin FAILS to mention some facts. Mr.  Jenna Talackova, she lied on application, decieved the pageant officials.
  The qualifications of being born a female were clearly stated, she ignored this.
  They suspected she to be a he….what gave it away?  Especially those on this post who claim he is
  a she legally.  ….no surgeon, no man-made God, no law can make a man fully completley a woman.
  A pretend one yes

• Anonymous

  I don’t know you would have to ask her

• Chengdu

  So if a woman is born without a uterus (yes, it can happen), is she not a woman? 

• Anonymous

   Why ?

• Smack80

  And really, that was my point. I think I said that we need to get “past” them.

• guest

  I thought is was very funny…and smart a$$…State is a  synonym for province.

• guest

  Are you really asking this question?

• Anonymous

  they will just evolve into something else, there will always be exhibitionists and voyeurs , it is a power thing and ask any burlesque performer it is they that are in charge not the poor fool with the drool.

• stingray68

  As anyone who has visited Thailand knows, some of the world’s most beautiful women are actually “he’s,” katois, who regularly compete (and win) in beauty pageants in that country.  Not my cup of tea but I can certainly admire the architecture.  As for this matter, the Canadians need to get a sense of humour- pageants are nothing but high camp anyway.

• guest

  Your arguement makes the God born woman feel inferior to a mutalated male body.
  This is about protecting women, protecting the integrity of the ‘feminine’ by God creation.  Not the man-made God or liberal legality.

• Anonymous

  honestly I doubt God cares one way or another , after all he is pretty non judgmental it is his believers that go off the deep end. After all god is not infallible he does screw up from time to time , just ask a duck-billed platypus or take a gander at the strawberry with its seeds on the outside ;)

• Ggeorge

  Damn, Jenna is HOT!
  Does that make me gay?

• Lars

  Canada recognizes her as a woman.  I would think that would mandate that a business operating in Canada would also have to recognize her as a woman.  As for all those XXers who might not want her to compete–well, it does suck that she’s so beautiful, but is having been borne an WYer really an unfair advantage in a BEAUTY contest?

  I’m not a fan of pageants (of course I’m a big hairy butch ugly guy, and no one is forcing me to complete in one).  However, I respect her right to do it.

• Anonymous

  I believe you answered your own question.

• bob ross

  She’s HOT! OMG did I just sat that!

• Anonymous

   Bet you that his DNA says he’s a man. Cutting off his junk no more makes him a woman than sewing it to his forehead makes him a unicorn.

• Anonymous

   His DNA would show he is a man. DNA is biological. Moron.

• http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

  “She” is not a woman. He is a man who mutilated his genitals. The Miss Universe Canada pageant has every right to discriminate equally that no males shall participate.

• Anonymous

   DNA shows he is a male. Cutting off his tackle no more makes him a male than sewing said gear to his forehead makes him a unicorn. SCIENCE would show he is a man. Lunacy on the other hand…..

• http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

   ”She was…transgender people are genetically ALREADY male or female, based on brain chemistry and chromosomes.”

  *LOL* No they’re not. That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard! Mr. Jenna Talackova has XY gender chromosomes, otherwise he wouldn’t have innate male features such as deeper set eyes, ring fingers that are longer than his index finger, and various other features… and oh yeah: testicles that he chopped off.

  Just because Mr. Talachova took his cross-dressing to the next level by mutilating his genitals and regularly taking artificial hormones (which REALLY screw up your body chemistry) doesn’t mean he has magically transformed into a woman. He’s a male and nothing will ever change that.

• http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

  “Gender isn’t binary.”

  Um, that’s SPECIFICALLY what it is. You’re either a male or a female, that’s no other option and you can’t be both (human hermaphrodites are a medical myth, they’re only theorized and even in theory only one set of gonads is functional).

• Anonymous

  Are you assuming that I am ignorant because of my opinion that is not the same as yours?  That would seem to be just as intolerant as what you are assuming about me.  True ignorance simply means that you do not know about something.  How am I ignorant when I say that males have penises and women have vaginas?  Are you saying that this is incorrect?  When you say “uninformed” opinion, why do you say it is uninformed?  When I refer to the anatomy and/or make-up of men and of women, I am offering  FACTS.  When you (or others) offer statements such as “As biomedical research discovers more facts regarding the human condition…,” thereby, indicating that these are still just thoeries, how am I the uninformed one?    

• Anonymous

  Regarding your post starting with: “I’m not excusing anything just trying to point out the difference between a pedophile and someone transgendered.”

  You are not answering my question.  I am using pedophiles as an example of excusing certain behaviors.  I am not talking about their actions as pedophiles or as transgenders.  I am referring to their rationale for why they chose to do those things.  Within that framework, I’ve asked you to please offer an explanation to the following: 

  With your logic, any crime could be excused away by saying that there is something in their brain that makes them do it. I know we’re not talking about crime in our inital point, but the focus here is on making excuses for what you believe is right, when, perhaps, it is not.
  Again, couldn’t you excuse ANY behavior using your logic, as being a “brain” issue? Please enlighten me.     

• Anonymous

  If you can’t understand why someone can’t be any biological being they want to be, then I’m wasting my time trying to have an intelligent discussion with you. 

• Anonymous

  Well said, my compliments.

• Anonymous

  Typical…

• Anonymous

  Huh?

• Anonymous

  Yes by Ggeorge, you are gay…

• Anonymous

  It’s weird that she’s disqualified. Are they suggesting that she has an unfair advantage or something?

• Anonymous

  Who needs a law when we have your judgement? Thanks!

• Anonymous

  Wow, the fact that you believe that hermaphrodites are theoretical just disqualified you from making medical statements. If you get a chance, go on the google machine, and type in “intersexuality” k? Thanks!

• http://truth-and-opinion.dyndns.org/ mavigozler

   @jefwel:disqus
  I can safely reply in this manner since you have commented profusely in just about every thread of this particular forum, being able to create the context of just how ignorant you are.  For example, it is only the most obtuse individuals who would compare transgenderism (or homosexuality or bisexuality) to pedophilia.  In making the comparison, you seem to believe that transgenderism needs to be excused or rationalized as something wrong or offensive similar to pedophilia.  It does not.  Just because something does not fit your particular norms or expectations does not require it to be rationalized or excused.  Pedophilia is a crime.  So is transgenderism, but only if in you live in the most horrid places on the planet, such as Iran.  If you were not uninformed, you would have never made such a remark.  But as you did, I am justified in that characterization of you.

  Now if in the future in you should refrain from such ugly thoughts, a characterization of you being uninformed might be unfair.

• Anonymous

  How am I judging in this situation?  I am stating facts.  Whether I like it or not, men have a certain anatomy, as do women. That is not called judgement.   

• Anonymous

  IT IS THE THOUGHT PROCESS I’M COMPARING!!!!  You don’t seem to get that.  I have asked a series of questions to a few of you on this post, and NONE of you have answered even one of my question.  Why is that?  You are only making judgements about me, without entertaining my questions to you.   Also, you act as if transgenderism is rampant, adn that I am in the minority.  Do you really think that transgenderism is accepted by the majority of people?  I hate to tell you, but you are probably in the minority on this one. 

  However, if I am so uniformed, please educate me.  Why does a person have to undergo a drastic surgery and then administer hormones into their body to become a transgender?  I know it seems like an obvious question, but I’d like to see what you have to say.  The answer might have something to do with the fact that a man deson’t have a vagina, so it has to be surgically ”constructed.”  Then he has to take artificial (fake) hormones to start showing characteristics of a female. 

   Let me ask you–what would happen if he stopped taking the hormones? 

     

• guest

  God cares about miscreations, he cares about the karma a person like Mr. Jenna is creating for himself, he cares about for his soul, and how these acts are destructive for him and others.
  As far as judgment, that is between God and this soul.
  I can say there is love/compassion/understanding involved.
  sickofthestupid, use the word honest God with more heart.

• guest

  he is not beautiful..werid, strange, bizarre creation of hackng off organs, laboratory created hormones….the pageant officals felt something was wrong, that is why they searched for the truth.  You know ‘truth’  ..not lying on application.

• guest

  I don’t need a law to determine the truth  It/he is my determination.

• guest

  Yes, who needs a stupid law to determine female or male. Doctors have been doing just fine without it.

• Gailstorm1964

  The fact is – she is not a natural born woman.  She does not have ovaries or the female capacity to have children.  He has been artificially altered into a woman look alike – but biologically and naturally is a male.

• http://truth-and-opinion.dyndns.org/ mavigozler

  @jefwel:disqus
  You are comparing the thought process of a transgender person and a pedophile?  Do you know what it is to compare something?  It is to find similarities with the express belief that there are important, useful similarities to find.  Why not compare Mother Teresa and an NBA basketball player?  To attempt a comparison of two things is to express your intention that the comparison serves a purpose.  Comparing transgenderism and pedophilia reveals something about the level of knowledge of individuals, namely that there is a lack of such knowledge.  To describe such a person as “uninformed,” even “ignorant,” is apt, is it not?  As far as transgenders and pedophiles being few in number (“a minority”): is that really a basis for any comparison?  I imagine Koreans living in Los Angeles having piercings and tattoos represent a minority, so let’s compare them to pedophiles too! (Why not?)

  While a transgender may not conform to your particular view of the natural order of universal principles you may hold, the attempt to compare and thus to link it with a desire for sex with pre-adolescent children is something you should have refrained from.

• Anonymous

  Transgenders, as well as pedophiles (or any number of other groups of people) often use the excuse that “they were born that way.”  Do they not?  That is called a similarity. 

  Also, why are you not answering my questions that I’ve asked?  In your very condascending manner, you are attacking my intellect and my reasoning, yet you are providing nothing but your opinion.  For some reason, you are not able to understand that I am NOT trying to “compare and thus to link it with a desire for sex with pre-adolescent children.”  I really wish you’d read and try to understand.  I am saying that, in each instance, the excuse is offered (at times) that their brains are wired that way.  I chose to bring up pedophiles as a CONTRAST to the relatively harmless nature of transgenderism in an effort to illustrate a question that I’ve asked before here, but have yet to receive an answer: 

  With your logic, any crime could be excused away by saying that there is something in their brain that makes them do it. I know we’re not talking about crime in our inital point, but the focus here is on making excuses for what you believe is right, when, perhaps, it is not.  You should know that humans will justify their actions in a selfish manner.  You seem to be ignoring something called SELFISH DESIRE.  this is the similarity–selfish desire to do what you want to do.  If Mother Teresa or an NBA player (or any other two or more people in the world) each did something out of selfish desire, that would be similar.  I’m sorry you are not able to understand that.   
  Again, couldn’t you excuse ANY behavior using your logic, as being a “brain” issue? Please enlighten me.

  In addition, a person’s experiences and upbringing are monumental in their development.  I propose to you that there is overwhlemingly more evidence of this being a determining factor, as opposed to their brains being wired to be the opposite gender.   

  My point is that people are selfish beings, by nature, and we will use irrational justification when the need suits us.  My opinion is that transgenderism is more of an indictment of what that person has gone through in their developmental years, rather than a “brain” issue.  Again, you seem to not like it when someonew has an opinion other than yours. 

• http://truth-and-opinion.dyndns.org/ mavigozler

   @jefwel:disqus
  Okay, despite your word choices that make you appear to have objectionable premises—such as transgenders appearing to need to “excuse” or explain or rationalize or otherwise offer an analysis to anyone who has no business asking or demanding such an “excuse,” I am going to assume myself that you mean well and are sincerely interested in pursuing enlightenment on the matter.

  The question remains about what is a definitive standard for what a human male and female are.  You have proposed the possession of critical anatomical parts at birth.  However there are often congenital abnormalities in which a female (no Y chromosome) has a sexual part very much like a penis and no vagina.  There also may be cases where a genetic males (possession of Y chromsome) have no distinguishing male anatomy.

  Your criteria also create a legal problem for transgenders as well.  Suppose a person in a dress with a large pair of breasts and more feminine than masculine in appearance (as assessed by a majority?) goes into the woman’s restroom and pees standing up at the toilet.  Does another woman (by your qualification, with vagina now and at birth) call the police to report a man (“pervert”) in the woman’s restroom?

  Are you aware that Turks issue national identity cards to all people born in Turkey (ie. Turkish citizens), colored light blue for males and sort of a light orange for females?  In this way, they determine sex for all legal purposes, and the right to go into which restroom.  There have been cases of transgenderism where the Turk making the change also made a change in the color of the identity card.

  At any rate, perhaps a large Congressional/legislative panel should be convened to consider the various criteria, and a means of certifying sexual identity established, if it uncomplicates these matters.  Canada will have to work out its own system.

• Anonymous

  Regarding your comment “The question remains about what is a definitive standard for what a human male and female are…”

  You do realize that “transgenders” represent a VERY small fraction of individuals within the population, don’t you.  Why is that relevant?  It is relevant in that your question regarding a need for a “definitive standard” doesn’t really apply to the vast majority of people.  This is an anomoly.  You don’t project the traits of this anomoly onto the whole of the population.  There are also people born with 6 fingers on their hands.  Do we have to start asking the glove manufacturers to now only make gloves with 6 fingers?  No.  I know that is a silly anecdote, but, in this event, we realize that this is just a thing that happens.

  You seem to be taking this anomoly and ascribing it to everyone, with regarding to questioning our gender.

• Anonymous

  Because you are telling her who she is. Who are you to say that she’s not?

  I’m so sorry that reality does not conform to your frantic need for concrete genders.

• Anonymous

  Actually, gender is a continuum.  Read a damn book.

• Anonymous

  Yeah, I am.  She’s clearly not in denial of anything.  She seems very certain of who she is. 

  I would argue that you and Love of Country are the ones guilty of representing the state of denial.

• Anonymous

  Let me ask you a question, and please provide an answer. 

  If his body were burned beyond recognition, and forensic science was used to determine gender, utilizing bone structure (pelvic, among other), DNA, etc.   What do you think their findings would be–male or female? 

  Also, let’s suppose that we live in the stone age, where there were no surgeons to “create” (or cut off) body parts.  Also, there were no artificial hormones.  What would he be classified as?

  In both cases, the answer is “male.”   

• Anonymous

  What does his DNA tell about him?  What does his pelvic bone suggest?  Partner, I hate to inform you, but he’s a male.  I really can’t understand why some people think that, if you take something that is a man, and then sew on a penis and call yourself a woman, that you are a woman.  If we sewed some wings and beak from a bird on him, does that make him a bird? what if he claims that he IS a bird, and that he’s always felt like he was bird in man’s body?

• Anonymous

  “Partner, it has never been “common sense” to keep blacks and whites separated.  That was a choice.  That is an ignorant comment.”

  Actually, common sense was used to keep blacks and whites separated.  In fact, it was considered common sense that the only way whites and blacks COULD be equal was through segregation.

  http://books.google.com/books/about/The_common_sense_of_segregation.html?id=2jh5GwAACAAJ

  As for me and common sense, I really don’t believe in such a thing, let alone allow my actions and judgments be influenced by it.  And personally, I respect the decisions others make about how they live their lives.  If a person was born biologically male but decided, for whatever reason, to live their life as a female, I respectfully refer to them with female pronouns.  To do any less is stubborn and spiteful.

• Anonymous

   ”It/he”

  HOORAY DEHUMANIZATION!

• Anonymous

  I’ll ask you the same question I posed to Shogun. 

  Let’s say that, God forbid, he was burned beyond recognition, and that forensic science was required to identify the body.  Let’s say DNA and bone structure were analyzed to determine gender.  What would they find with this person (DNA and pelvic bone)?  They would find traits of a male. 

  Also, let’s suppose we were back in the stone age, and there were no surgeons that could cut off penises and/or “create” a fake vagina.  Yet, this guy wants to be called a girl.  What would he be under these circumstances?  He would be a male.

  When you strip it down to fundamentals, he is male, plain and simple.

  Please, I’d really like to know what you think DNA would reveal about this guys gender. 

• Anonymous

   If you knew a single damn thing about genetics, you’d know that genetic expression is not as cut-and-dried as you’re making it out to be.

• Anonymous

   I think we’re getting to this stubborn, spiteful fool.

• Anonymous

  This is so silly.  Segregation was a choice.  Not common sense.  The term “common sense” is purely subjective.  You know, this speaks to the issue about transgenderism, as well.  People just don’t want to have the balls to admit that lots of things they do are a CHOICE and nothing else.  It’s called taking responsibility/ownership. 

• Anonymous

   It isn’t ‘any biological being’ you want to be.  You’ve just slipped off your own slippery slope!

• Anonymous

  Because your gender is not necessarily tied to your biological sex. Gender is more of a property of identity.  Sometimes, there are people whose gender does not match their biological sex.  This inconsistency can cause significant distress, so many chose to have surgery in order to make their body more consistent with their identity.

  If you ask a transgendered person, surgery does not make them ‘something else’, it makes them more like themselves.

• Anonymous

   Way to rely on a South Park storyline.

• Anonymous

   ’whatever it is’

  You’re a pathetic excuse for a human.

• Anonymous

  Do you even know that a “slippery slope” is in literary terms?  What does your comment mean?  

  My point was it is a choice, nothing more.  If it is not a choice, then why can’t we try to call oourselves whatever we want to call ourselves, such as a bird, or a tree.

  Also, please answer the question (that you are apparently avoiding) about what this individual’s DNA says about his gender.  I’ve asked a very specific question to a couple of you who are arguing that this man is a a woman.  And neither of of you is willing to answer this question.  Perhaps, it is because the answer will expose the fact that he is a male.  Period.   

• Anonymous

  Untreated female-to-male brains are masculinized.  Untreated male-to-female brains are more feminized than straight males.  There are biological differences, you’re just too stuck on physical consistency to realize it.

  http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan.html

  “Antonio Guillamon’s
  team at the National University of Distance Education in Madrid, Spain,
  think they have found a better way to spot a transsexual brain. In a
  study due to be published next month, the team ran MRI scans on the
  brains of 18 female-to-male transsexual people who’d had no treatment
  and compared them with those of 24 males and 19 females.”

  “They found significant differences
  between male and female brains in four regions of white matter – and the
  female-to-male transsexual people had white matter in these regions
  that resembled a male brain .”"It’s the first time it has been shown that the brains of
  female-to-male transsexual people are masculinised,” Guillamon says.

  In a separate study, the team used the
  same technique to compare white matter in 18 male-to-female transsexual
  people with that in 19 males and 19 females. Surprisingly, in each
  transsexual person’s brain the structure of the white matter in the four
  regions was halfway between that of the males and females. “Their brains are not completely masculinised and not completely feminised, but they still feel female,” says Guillamon.”

• Anonymous

   No, I got your ‘meaning’.  I’m responding to your explicit attempt to tie the two together. 

• Samantha

  The issue is her disqualification for not being BORN” a female as is required by the rules.  Why is it men are so insecure in their manliness that they must be rude when it comes to transgender, gay or someone who has had surgery to become the opposite sex?  The question was asked why she entered–probably because she thought she was pretty enough to compete and honestly she is.  Sometimes nature f**ks up and a doctor fixes it. 

• Anonymous

  Thanks for answering the question for me. 

  If you want my honest answer, here it is: so what.  One question is an absurd hypothetical that has nothing to do with her while she’s living and the second is irrelevant because we’re not living in the stone age.

  At any rate, bone development does not necessarily have anything to do with gender.  Gender largely resides in the brain, not the genitalia and not in secondary sex characteristics. 

• Anonymous

  You know what?

  I’m done.  You’re either being deliberately obtuse, a complete idiot, or someone desperately trying to either justify a prejudice or defend a previously-held belief in the concreteness of gender. 

  Regardless of which you are, it would be a better use of my time to get into a verbal argument with my broken heater. 

  Cheers!

• Anonymous

  It’s old news that we all carry some feminine traits on a mall level, and/or masculine traits on a small level. I guess you’re telling me that transgenders are not making a choice, it is being made for them.  Is that what I’m understanding you to say?  That personl choice/selfish desire has nothing to do with it?

• Anonymous

  Regarding your post:  “If you want my honest answer, here it is: so what. One question is an absurd hypothetical that has nothing to do with her while she’s living and the second is irrelevant because we’re not living in the stone age.At any rate, bone development does not necessarily have anything to do with gender. Gender largely resides in the brain, not the genitalia and not in secondary sex characteristics.”

  You are obviously avoiding the question that doesn’t give you the answer you want.  The reason you will not answer the question is that the answer is only one:  “male.”  You cannot argu that point (intellectually and logically, anyway).  As far as bone structure, you may not know that females and males have differeing boen structure.  Pelvic bones are a prime example. This guy has the pelvic bone of a man.  Again, this point cannot be argued. 

  I think you are missing my point:  it is about CHOICE, and personal desires.  Call it what it is.  People try to justify anything and everything with sceince, but sometimes it comes down to choice. 

• Anonymous

  Again, you cannot answer the question.  You know, when you can’t come with answer to a simple question like these, perhaps YOU are the one that is being obtuse and stubborn in not realizing that MAYBE YOU ARE WRONG.  Perhaps you are choosing to ignore FACTS.  I can, and have, provided factual information, you have provided none.  You are blasting me for being “deliberatley obtuse”, a “complete idiot,” but it is simply because you don not like my opinion, which I am backing up with logical, reasonable factual information.  You are simply whining because you can’t argue the point.  I mean, c’mon why do you call me a complete idiot?  Do I seem like a uneducated person to you?  I have posed a couple of questions that you deem irrelevant–one being a situation where a transgender could be burned beyond recognition ( and methods for identification), and your answer is that this situation coouldn’t happen.  I’m the “idiot” here?  You don’t thin that could happen?  Why not?  The hypothetical situation is simply a context where you’re opinion and my opinion would be put to the test.  Scientists do this everyday to test their theories.  Yet, you, who call me the complete idiot, do not seem to get that.  Guess what–this particular person would be considered a male, due to genetics and bone structure.

  It really says a lot about you when you can’t asnwer simple questions, and you resort to name calling.

• Anonymous

   ”It’s old news that we all carry some feminine traits on a mall level, and/or masculine traits on a small level.”

  This isn’t a ‘small level’.  The differences are significant, to the point where male-to-female brains appeared to be more like female brains.

  “I guess you’re telling me that transgenders are not making a choice, it is being made for them.”

  For most, it isn’t a choice.  And neither is the choice being made for them.  For most, there is no choice at all, they are who they are.  That’s what these findings of significant brain differences indicate.  These studies indicate that the brains of transgendered women tend to develop and are organized in a way that is more consistent with males than non-transgendered females, and vise versa. 

  I don’t understand this argument about it being a ‘choice’.  I can’t think of anyone who would choose to be transgendered, considering the ignorance, intolerance, bigotry and lack of understanding exhibited by people like you in our society. 

• Anonymous

   Yes, you’re the idiot here.  Why?  Because you can’t seem to understand that GENDER involves a great deal more than just external physical characteristics. 

• Anonymous

  You should look up the term “anomaly.”  Sure there are people who may have issue within their brain that lean one way or the other.  But that ain’t the “norm.”  You are referring to these things as though we are ALL experiencing this “gender confusion,” for lack of a better term.  It is irresponsible to ascribe this anomoly onto everyone.  This “transgender” thing represents a miniscule portion of the total population.  That does not mean that ”most of us” are confused about what we are.  It’s quite the opposite.  

  And, here we are again, with you not able to answer my simple little questions.  You are actually a prime illustration of my point.  You are making a choice to defend a point that you, apparently, can’t do very well.  All you have offered with your “evidence” is that some males and/or females have more male/female brain matter than others.  It DID NOT say, though, that this proves (in any way) the notion that you were born with a penis, but you are definitely a girl!  Also, you have not taken into consideration the environment that a transgender may have been raised in. 

  However, I get the impression that you would probably let your child be “whatever they wanted to be.”  Like that couple in California who is letting their child decide.  I’ve read that psychiatrists have said that this kid will needs so much therapy when it gets older…   

• Anonymous

   ”However, I get the impression that you would probably let your child be
  “whatever they wanted to be.”  Like that couple in California who is
  letting their child decide.  I’ve read that psychiatrists have said that
  this kid will needs so much therapy when it gets older…  ”

  What the hell are you talking about?

  “You should look up the term “anomaly.”  Sure there are people who may
  have issue within their brain that lean one way or the other.  But that
  ain’t the “norm.”  You are referring to these things as though we are
  ALL experiencing this “gender confusion,” for lack of a better term.  It
  is irresponsible to ascribe this anomoly onto everyone.”

  Did I?  No, I didn’t.  I said that these differences were present in people who ALREADY IDENTIFIED as transgender, and that these differences are significant.  According to recent census data, .3% of the population openly identifies themselves as transgender.  That’s around a million people.  That’s not really an anomaly.

  “And, here we are again, with you not able to answer my simple little
  questions.  You are actually a prime illustration of my point.  You are
  making a choice to defend a point that you, apparently, can’t do very
  well.  All you have offered with your “evidence” is that some males
  and/or females have more male/female brain matter than others.  It DID
  NOT say, though, that this proves (in any way) the notion that you were
  born with a penis, but you are definitely a girl!”

  I am answering your simple questions by telling you that they are not relevant.  Your questions are based on a false premise, specifically that physical characteristics define gender.  They, in fact, do not.  Yes, in your hypotheticals, they would be considered physically male, but that does not mean that they are of the male gender. 

• Anonymous

  Man, am I glad I don’t drink anymore!  I would end up hitting on that after a few drinks, then have to kill myself in the morning, lol!

• guest

  Thank you!

• kels

  Giving yourself a little too much credit there, you’re assuming it would be consensual.

• guest

  When asked if he/it considers self to be a woman, answer’Yes, a woman with a past’….if that is what you consider ‘clearly’..you might want to look up it’s definition.
  I do have understanding and compassion for men and women experiencing gender confusion, I just don’t believe mutalation of their body is the best approach, it doesn’t heal emotional, mental and spiritual parts of who they are.

• Anonymous

  She should have just killed herself like the guest would have wanted. I think it’s fucked up but trans phobia is pretty common.

• Anonymous

  Jefewel answered my question: he’s clearly a trans phobic Neanderthal

• Anonymous

   Think a Ms Transgender exist already, It’s call the RUPAUL Show.

• Anonymous

  You’re repeating yourself. Different body part this time, but still the same. Having a problem thinking of anything else to say?

• Anonymous

  You got it partially right in your previous post. Only it’s you that’s wasting our time.

  Geez almighty,  god help anyone who might want to hook up with you one day. You’d have them in the looney bin in no time.

• Anonymous

  jefwel, you need to look up & study the word, “insane”.    

• Guest

  I’m surprised at the people saying that they need to change the rules to include transgenders. Judges and the audience are expecting the contestants to be natural born females. Not transgenders, not a guy in drag, not a blow-up doll, not a baboon with lipstick and a wig. This is a private organization and they can set whatever rules they want to for this competition. You have no right to tell them to change their rules to accommodate your views. If you don’t like it, don’t watch the pageant. There are many other competitions for all sorts of contestants: married women, women of ages outside this competition (children’s pageants, Ms. Senior America). There’s even a transgender beauty pageant (Miss International Queen). Jenna Talackova knows of this last competition because she was in it last year. None of those other women are telling this organization to change their rules. This is just another case of the militant freaks trying to force everyone to accept their perversions as normal.
   http://www.shubalyuba.org

• Anonymous

  Perhaps it’s you that’s the pedophile, trying to figure out why you’re like you are, with your inane blathering.

• Anonymous

  jefwel, your ignorance is astounding.

  http://www.urologyhealth.org/urology/index.cfm?article=90

  http://abcnews.go.com/Health/intersex-children-pose-ethical-dilemma-doctors-parents-genital/story?id=13153068

  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/magazine/24intersexkids.html?pagewanted=all

• Anonymous

  Oh, boy, here we go with another one.  “Hook up” with me–what are you, about 13 or 14 years old.  I’ve been married for 20 years and have 2 kids.  I own my own business, and we’re happy.  Good call, dumbass.

• Anonymous

  Well, I now that you may think it insane that  males and females have differing organs and bone structure, but you, perhaps haven’t studied that in your little school yet.  Does your momma know you’re playing on the computer?

  Rather than being a dumbass, and just calling me names, why don’t you offer a rational (you may need to look that word up) answer to my questions that I’ve posted?

  On the other hand, I bet you voted for Obama, you are a liberal, and you DO NOT like it when someone has opinion other than yours.  You see, unlike your scum, I’ve never crticized anyone for having a differing opinion–I’ve only given factual information and evidence to support my opinion. 

  You, on the other hand, do just the opposite.  That shows a lack of maturity in you.  You might want to consider that.

  If you don’t understand this, I’m sure someone will help you if you ask.

• Anonymous

  Jayson2, I now see–as everyone else reading this–that you are simply a name caller, with no rational thought.  It is really not necessary to respond to such idiotic crap. 

  “Perhaps it’s you that’s the pedophile…?”  Are you serious?  That’s your idea of a rational comment to post?  Grow up a liitle, and then come back–you’re embarrasing yourself.

• Anonymous

  Well, well. Isn’t it amazing how your responses to my comments end here, rather than after the comment & links I left you on intersex children/adults. Too much information for you to grasp, jefwel?

   You’ve proved what I’ve suspected all along. Your mind is closed to anything but what you yourself thinks is right. 

  In your world, black is black, white is white, there is no in-between.

  You say you have two children. What a pity they’re growing up, or may have already grown up, to be as narrow & closed minded as you.

• Anonymous

  Regarding your post: “Well, well. Isn’t it amazing how your responses to my comments end here, rather than after the comment & links I left you on intersex children/adults. Too much information for you to grasp, jefwel?”

  It’s called GOING TO WORK.  You might be the dumbest person I’ve ever argued with on this post.  It’s the middle of the day, and I stop responding…  Hmm…wonder what it could be?  It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.   

  “You’ve proved what I’ve suspected all along. Your mind is closed to anything but what you yourself thinks is right.
  In your world, black is black, white is white, there is no in-between.
  You say you have two children. What a pity they’re growing up, or may have already grown up, to be as narrow & closed minded as you. ”

  Well, I’m sure this will blow your mind, but I think have been wrong about some of these things.  The link to the last article you sent really made me realize that, sometimes, a person is “caught in the middle” and really doesn’t want to be.  My initial comments were in referrence to those people who simply chose to be the opposite of whatever they were born as.  However, I did not take into consideration the many painful issues having to be dealt with by those who did not choose this for themselves.  

  Well, Jayson2, perhaps you were wrong about me.  Maybe one of these day you will learn to be a real man, rather than what you have shown to be here.

  And as for my sons, you assume they are growing up a certain way.  You might be the biggest dumbass/asshole I’ve ever seen on this post.  You make a derogatory comment about my kids, which you don’t even know–hell, you don’t seem to even understand that people try and be productive during the day.  You assume that I’ve stopped responding.  Unbelievable.  One of my sons has been tested and is in the top 1% of gifted children in the U.S..  Also, they tell me that he is rare case where his social skills are very high also.  He is 12 years old, and I bet he’s smarter than you.  

  Also, just a piece of advise, you should probably not comment on people’s kids in a negative way.  Not a smart move.

• whatswithallthehomophobes?

  Well, SHE isnt dead, is she? 
  Are you really that hateful towards transexuals that you have to obsess about what this person wants to identify as? What effect does it have on you? Have you ever read anything about gender identity? 

• guest

  exactly, when female/male is distorted it is dehumanization.
  miscreation, de-evolving = an IT

• guest

  Canada law..yes
  Gods Law…NO

• guest

  Phobias are fears, usually diagnosis by professionals in mental health field.
  What are your qualifications for diagnosis, especially when you don’t even know me? What are you afraid of?  What are your fears?

• http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

   @shogan83:disqus: No, it’s not a “continuum”, it’s in your genes. Get over it, you can’t choose your gender.

• http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

  @CheerioPolitico:disqus: Yeah, and intersex individual aren’t hermaphrodites: they do have a single, specific gender. That’s what I was talking about, genius. They do not have both functioning male and female gonads.

• Anonymous

  Actually, gender IS NOT genetic, sex is. And her gender honestly hasn’t changed, only her body has.

• razor

  I didn’t know Trump’s daughter was a dude.

• Single13rocks

  In order for someone to be a female the all female organisms not the including asexual or males have to have the parts to be able to give birth unless they have a genetical problem where the organism is infertile due to the fact that the x chromosome had that trait therefore “jenna” is not a female despite that he has an artificial vagina and got hormone I am sure that he does not get menstral cycles either where in the human female that is nessecary

• Kankakee

  Yes because he had surgical enchansements whereas most aren’t supposed to

• Iuasgy

  For genetics to have fucked up he would be disabled

• Effector

  you know your comment is very rude. hope you find it in yourself to be kind to everyone