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Plus Size Model Poses With Straight Size Model In Controversial Spread

As evidenced by last year’s Vogue Italia spread, naked plus size models tend to get people talking. Katya Zharkova is the latest girl to shed her clothes, and she’s making quite a statement.

Zharkova snagged an 8-page editorial for PLUS Model Magazine, in which she appears totally naked…and surrounded by captions with controversial statistics. For example: “Twenty years ago the average fashion model weighed 8% less than the average woman. Today she weighs 23% less.” And also: “Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.”

Of course, these stats can’t totally be taken for face value. There’s no mention of the weight of the average woman 20 years ago as compared to now, just that of models. In addition, the criteria for anorexia involves more than just a specific BMI. That said, these numbers are still jarring. The photos are also jarring — not because of the nakedness or Zharkova’s body, but because of the use of an anonymous (we never see her face) straight size model that Zharkova holds and lies on.

What’s the point of the editorial? The mag explains:

The answer to the question is this, there is nothing wrong with our bodies. We are bombarded with weight-loss ads every single day, multiple times a day because it’s a multi-billion dollar industry that preys on the fear of being fat. Not everyone is meant to be skinny, our bodies are beautiful and we are not talking about health here because not every skinny person is healthy.

What we desire is equality to shop and have fashion options just like smaller women. Small women cannot be marketed to with pictures of plus-size women, why are we expected to respond to pictures of small size 6 and 8 women? We don’t! When the plus size modeling industry began, the models ranged in size from 14 to 18/20, and as customers we long for those days when we identify with the models and feel happy about shopping.

Check out the spread below. What do you think?


[PLUS Model Magazine via Fashionista]



  • Lrichards510

    The thin model looks hideously skinny next to the plus size model. Please let’s start showing our young girls that women don’t look like that unless they starve!

  • alc2695

    FYI not everyone who is skinny is anorexic.  I was a model and naturally very thin as were most of the girls I worked with.  People come in all DIFFERENT sizes.  The reason the average model weighs 23% less than the average American women today versus 8% less than the average American woman 20 years ago is b/c American’s are fatter than ever.  If you look at the history of fashion, models have always been thin and believe it or not there are people with this body type.  

  • nina

    The only reason why models seem thinner than ever is because everyone else is getting fatter. Surely fighting obesity is a bigger problem, considering more people are overweight than underweight???

  • Goofygyrl21

    I believe woman of all shapes, sizes, & colors should be featured in magazines & on the runway. Beauty is complex. What is beauty for me may not be beauty to the next person. The world is becoming a smaller place as each day passes by.
    Teatodd
    http://www.teatodd.blogspot.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/jespurp jessica elizalde

    whats on the girls butt in the last photo? cover-up anyone?

  • Anonymous

    When you’re out and about, do you see anyone over 30 that’s not overweight?
    No judgment, but fit people are a rarity.
    Your metabolism will betray you eventually.

  • Madforfashion78

    The way I see it, the plus size model is kicking some ass!  We need to tell the industry that woman must look healty to look good.  Not the oposite!  Great article and love the photos.

  • http://lenasblend.blogspot.com/ Lena’s Blend

    I agree that traditional models often look unhealthy and anorexic. I see nothing wrong with using thin models but I’ve never understood the use of models that are so thin it looks odd or bad. I also think it would make sense to use more variety in size (and age and race for that matter) in fashion considering there is a variety in the women who buy and use fashion. However I do not agree with addressing what’s wrong with looking anorexic while not also address what’s wrong with looking overweight. All women should work what they have the best that they can but there should also still be a sense of honesty on both ends of the spectrum. This article, however is in poor taste. The pictures are unnecessarily obscene. They could have portrayed this woman’s good looks without taking it this far in my opinion. 

    http://www.lenasblend.blogspot.com

  • Mmekimstaub

    This is just weird.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1040871451 Terri Jeann

    The model on the left is GROSS!

  • Jay

    Exactly why we need to change the industry, for many years what is been thought is that you need to looks skinny to be beautiful that perspective should change already plus size could do the same as a skinny one as seen in the magazine, is not discusting or gross.

  • Krzwiener

    I think all women need to celebrate their natural beauty and embrace the beauty of each other.  And everyone complaining about models not being thinner, but that americans aregetting bigger, that may be a point but what do you say to the fact that plus size models are also getting smaller….isn’t that a contradiction????  I’m about a size 16-18 and that’s just my natural size, could I stand to lose a little of course; but do I love my body and feel sexy the way I am?  DEFINATELY!!!  When I’m shopping for clothing, the styles I would wear differ from what someone bigger or smaller than me would wear, so I want to see what clothes will look like on my body size, it just makes sense!  Plus, it would help all women to feel good about where they are now, even if they are striving to be a differnt size, we all need to appreciate each other for who we are and support each other in all aspects of our lives.  Why does it seem like size is more important than humanity itself?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1040871451 Terri Jeann

    People forget that skinny models are a “hanger” for designer clothes.  We all can see that by looking at this picture.  Would you like to be a padded hanger or a hanger with just the wire?

  • Heather E.

    In a world where bigger people are seen as virtually diseased these days, I greatly admire miss Zharkova for being proud of who she is and loving herself. As a bigger person, I live day to day wondering if someone is judging me or leaning over to their friend and talking about me. It’s not pleasant, but I see someone like miss Zharkova and I find myself thinking it’s okay to love myself even though I am not what society thinks is lovable. Yes, I could stand to lose some weight to benefit my health, but I’m never going to be what TV and the media portrays as “beautiful”, but because of people like miss Zharkova, I find that I can live with that. I don’t need to be a pinup girl to feel beautiful. Thank you, miss Zharkova for helping me learn that it’s okay to be different. Respect.

  • TerryLiciaReed

    I was once a model, and too thin … and stayed that way by eating improperly, if I ate at all, like EVERY model I knew (70′s-80′s).  Coke was the great food back then!  And I’m not talking the kind you drink.  So much for ‘thin’ being so healthy; those IN the industry know better than that blarney, be it runway or photo. Being overtly FAT isn’t good for you either though; after my child died I ate my way through the first few years, and earned diabetes & my first heart attack.  Don’t kid yourselves tht being outright FAT, as in over size 18, is in any way good for you. Your weight is hard on your heart, usually lines your arteries with plaque, tears up your knees and you never feel pretty cause … you aren’t, and YOU know it – and what YOU think of YOU is the biggest factor.  Middle ground works best for me, having been all three sizes in my life!  I would imagine that it would be better for all of us. Eat well, exercise enough to get that heart rate up 30 min a day,, drink plenty of water, don’t smoke, and get good rest AND have something fun and good for the heart and mind.  It’s not that hard, ladies and gents, unless you make it so.  CHOICE is the keyword, and self-respect?  I’ve been self-confident AND insecure and finally, self-respecting … and NO ONE can take that away from you, regardless of size or shape, because it comes from the Self, from inside you. If YOU like the way you look, then who cares about the rest of the world?   

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=39402783 Cassandra A Thompson

    I feel like many people are missing the point here. There’s an unsatisfied market in the fashion industry, period. We’re all beautiful, it is just not many people are listening to their needs. http://juniysa.blogspot.com/2012/01/whats-wrong-with-plus-sized-bodies-real.html

  • Anonymous

    thin model’s arms is plain scary

  • Anonymous

    Using what scale? The BMI? BMI was developed in the 18th century and doctors are starting to use the hip-waist ratio as a better indicator of someone’s health. Obesity is an overblown “epidemic”. I don’t care if they use thinner models, it tends to bring more focus to the fashion than the body. 

  • frightened!

    no offense, blind or blind?  look at the anorexic model next to the thicker girl,, hunger victim,, nicer clothes…I’m being nice now..did u read the factual page, re models being 23% thinner than the average weighted woman…we gasp out loud when we see some woman on tv…just like the starving people I just gave charity to…look again.. and please change this before your daughters think its okay to not eat and not weigh much…good luck peace  

  • respectful

    the thicker model looks hot, way hotter, hello!!!   Our problem is that we need to fix our hearts and our insides, and we’re focusing on the wrong thing…fix the inside first,, respect, kindness and love…then we can work on the outsides, which is beautiful, any way,, as long as your healthy…enjoy life…from the inside out…live out loud, and please don’t let anyone tell you that you’re not okay…cuz you so are,, whoever u are….peace and love   and respect

  • Amanda

    Americans are overweight on average, yes. But the average model HAS gotten much skinnier. And no, fashion has not always shown underweight models, that is only in the past 30 years or so. At one point, models were expected to be curvy.

    And I’m sorry, but if you’re underweight then you shouldn’t be held as a standard for other women. It isn’t healthy, regardless of whether that’s your “natural” weight or not.

  • Amanda

    Body hate is a big problem for women, and using underweight and unhealthy models as a standard of fashion and beauty promotes that. I would also not be so quick to assume that a plus sized model is overweight or obese. Many of them are actually fairly normal sizes, and if you look at the eating and exercise habits of the average “plus sized” model they’re generally much healthier than those of a standard model.

  • Jenlink

    you are just being downright nasty

  • Anonymous

    you too. welcome to nasty internet bullies club. keep on insulting people who don’t praise anorexia

  • Jenlink

    I find it quite fitting that how society likes to pick at each other and not embrace everyone ,And so fitting everyone is focusing on looks without noticing who the top advertisement ad above on top weight watchers ..So what is this really up for ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/willlmansarah Sarah Willman

    both women are beautiful, thats all i got to say

  • Jenlink

    Thank you will agree!

  • http://twitter.com/linksteroh Linksteroh

    Not everyone who is thin is an anorexic, and no one was praising anorexia and until you know what it is like to have this disease I would not be talking. I grant that the picture shows quite a contrast, but just because the girl is thin does not make her anorexic. 
    I would not be proud to say I was part of an internet bullies club, pathetic!

  • carol nyc

    Nina models are thinner then they were 30 years ago. A size zero was unherad of then!

  • Karo

    A rarity in which country? Where I live (The Netherlands) being overweight when you’re over 30 is definitely not a norm.

  • Danielle

    freckles…

  • Tara

    As a naturally thin girl, I think it’s insulting how people are so quick to point out when a girl is “model thin” but it is so totally NOT okay to comment on a curvier woman’s body.  It is very hard for me to gain weight, which I have tried to do in order to “fit” into a more natural thought of what women should look like.  Fortunately, I have accepted my body type as it is and am happy with it – even though I still have to deal with the “OMG you’re SOOOO skinny!” comments.  Shut it.  I’m happy with my body, and yes, I eat. A LOT.

  • Anonymous

    If you knew a quarter as much about fashion history as you claim to, you’d know that models only got really skinny in the past 20-30 years, curves had always been held in high regard until designers decided they wanted something ‘different’ which is the standard now. Not only in body shape these days, trends in model types from gap teeth, to different racial mixes, anything to catch the eye and seem exotic.

  • Anonymous

    well, insulting others for their opinion makes person part of internet bullies club. 

  • stateboi69

    You may call her a “plus-sized” model…. but I still think Katya Zharkova is quite a bit skinnier than your typical American… take home msg: We try to feel better about our self-image, but at the end of the day, Americans are still too fat! >.<

  • Becky

    whoever conceived and wrote this was high when they said that models 10 years ago were between a 12 and 18.  Think they got age confused with size.  Its just not factual that average models then were sizes 12 – 18.  Total fiction. 

  • http://dressifyme.com/ DressifyMe

    I don’t see the big deal in the model sizes. I mean some women who look great are big, some are small. As long as it’s not a health issue and it’s natural, then you can make any body look beautiful.

  • Rosemarypeppercorn

    Google Twiggy in the 1960′s and tell me YOU know what you’re talking about. You don’t.

  • ap

    O SHUT UP PEOPLE.. COME ON. THIS IS NOT ATTRACTIVE
    NO NEED TO BE ANOREXIC BUT NO NEED TO BE OVERWEIGHT AND ESPECIALLY MAKING AN AWKWARD STATEMENT. plz………..

  • AP

    EAT HEALTHY PLS & WORK OUTTTT…. AMERICANS ARE EFFIN FAT….
    ITS PROVEN> WERE THE FATTEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
    SO LETS STOP PROMOTING BEING OVERWEIGHT IS OKAY ITS NOT,
    ITS UNHEALTHY………..EVEN DOCTORS SAY ITS BETTER TO BE SKINNY THEN OVERWEIGHT. CUZ OVERWEIGHT CAUSES SO MUCH PROBLEMS TO YOUR HEALTH,
    SO STOP EATING YOUR FRENCH FRIES..EATING LATE AT NIGHT. NOT EXCERCISING,. AND LOSE WEIGHT PEOPLE. ITS NOT KOOL AND NOT SEXY. AND DEFINITLY NOT FASHION,

  • Anonymous

    Twiggy was a turning point sweetheart.

  • Bigskycountryphotos

    Actually, I’ve always been 115 and I’m 5′ 6″ and VERY healthy! It IS healthy if that’s just how you naturally are…..it’s NOT healthy if you’re doing things to make yourself thin! That makes NO sense to say it’s not healthy if that’s how you are naturally!? Being overweight weather “naturally” or” unnaturally” is though, considered unhealthy! It’s so sad to see Americans the way they are today…….and even sadder for children that this epidemic is really affecting.

  • jessica

    The sizes years ago were cut way smaller.

  • Anonymous

    Anything over a size 10 is fat. They are sitting there talking about the statistics. That girl is just out of shape and pudgy probably due to being too lazy to exercise. A human being should not have 3 fat rolls on the side of their ribcage. Average pants size for an american girl is a 12, 60% of americans are overweight. This magazine seems to think just because the majority are overweight that its “normal”..No, being in the majority does not make it right. It also does not mean you have to force people to change their views on the subject. When I look at this picture, I see an out of shape pudgy girl that should not be in a magazine naked. The fatty brigade will tell me that this is the body of a real women because the majority of women look like that. No, that just means the majority of women are overweight and out of shape. THE END.
     

  • Anonymous

    But what I find to be most humorous is that people start debates, argue,
    call out and analyze the fashion industry. WHY? Why would anyone take
    the fashion industry serious? It’s made up of elitist douche bags living
    in their own delusional little bubbles completely detached from reality
    and the rest of the world. Wait! Never mind, I keep forgetting how stupid
    the average human being is, so of course they will allow a small minority of people from NY to dictate and mold society at least the beauty part. After 10 years of seeing stories like this it continues to just prove how idiotic humans are. Simply do not buy fashion magazines, do not buy any magazines. Do not buy high end clothes and it will eventually send the message. As long as luxury designers are slapping on a 10,000 dollar price tag for a dress and having 3940850 people line up BEGGING to be offered the chance to buy it (lol) articles like this will always be pointless and do nothing.

  • tamz

    am a size 16….i dont wana be a an 8..i just wana be a 10:)) am beautifull now and if i lose the pounds…ill be even more:)) too small and too big isnt ok….medium is good for me:)

  • Guest

    What are you, 12?

  • me

    Let’s please remember that some girls ARE naturally 5’8, 5’9 and weigh 120 lbs and are perfectly healthy, and using terms like ‘hideously skinny’ can be hurtful. I think that whatever body type is natural to you is what looks most beautiful.

  • crayon

    Yeah and the 60s was 50 years ago!!! That’s much longer than the 20-30 everyone else is saying in argument.

  • Jamesbond

    fat people make me sick, if you argue that some people are just “naturally” thicker, you’re full of fat (where fat is a substitute for another type of word meaning poop)  there is always something that can be done… if you think that promoting being overweight is healthy, you’re full of fat too.  it’s an unhealthy lifestyle, there is always time to work out, i have two children and work full time, i still find time in the day to work out for at least an hour, at least three days a week.  i see and hear all the excuse that there is just no time to work out, BS, it just another way of denying that you’re lazy.  and fat!!

  • Star10 Over Again

    Totally feel you here.  I come in presently, though I’ve been at both ends of the scale, at 98bs on a 5’3″ frame.  I can’t shop in adult clothing any longer.  I lost it all in a year, in such a rapid (not personally attempted) manner that people feel WONERFUL and FREE to come up to me, after not seeing me for a few months and say (not ask ….STATE CLEARLY) “SO! I hear you’re Anorexic!”    Um, no…I just don’t have the health insurance to get the testing to learn what, exactly, IS wrong with me!  People feel FREE to be downright MEAN when one loses weight; but OH, just GAIN 10 lbs and people DANCE around you, trying to NOT point it out.  Yes, I’ve been there too – WAS a curvatious 165 before this mess started!  :-/  

  • Anonymous

    Very rarely do peoples bodies naturally retain fat genetically to make them look Fat, thick, big whatever makes you feel comfortable with hearing. The picture of both the thin and fat models looks horrible no matter how you look at it. Neither looks good. If you happy with the way you are then fine. If your not happy then do something to change it. If your conscious about what others say when your living in the US then heres a news flash, there are so many obese and fat people that its become a part of society and nothing to get excited about. So chances are that they are not talking about you as everyone is used to it. Kinda like how African tibesmen are so used to seeing their women topless that it does not excite them in the least

  • Little_Monster

    Yeah, but the super skinny, ~heroin chic~ look didn’t become the norm until the 80s, so… not seeing what you’re not understanding about wrenja’s comment?

  • Anonymous

    haha I love how my original comment was deleted. You post an article running their mouth about statistics then delete a post that questions it? I’m sorry the truth hurt so bad there was nothing left to do but be a typical woman go irrational mode and then hit the delete button. Heres my original comment

    Anything over a size 10 is fat. They are sitting there talking about the statistics. That girl is just out of shape and pudgy probably due to being too lazy to exercise. A human being should not have 3 fat rolls on the side of their ribcage. Average pants size for an american girl is a 12, 60% of americans are overweight. This magazine seems to think just because the majority are overweight that its “normal”..No, being in the majority does not make it right. It also does not mean you have to force people to change their views on the subject. When I look at this picture, I see an out of shape pudgy girl that should not be in a magazine naked. The fatty brigade will tell me that this is the body of a real women because the majority of women look like that. No, that just means the majority of women are overweight and out of shape.

    BYE!

  • Anonymous

    haha I love how my original comment was deleted. You post an article running their mouth about statistics then delete a post that questions it? I’m sorry the truth hurt so bad there was nothing left to do but be a typical woman go irrational mode and then hit the delete button. Heres my original comment

    Anything over a size 10 is fat. They are sitting there talking about the statistics. That girl is just out of shape and pudgy probably due to being too lazy to exercise. A human being should not have 3 fat rolls on the side of their ribcage. Average pants size for an american girl is a 12, 60% of americans are overweight. This magazine seems to think just because the majority are overweight that its “normal”..No, being in the majority does not make it right. It also does not mean you have to force people to change their views on the subject. When I look at this picture, I see an out of shape pudgy girl that should not be in a magazine naked. The fatty brigade will tell me that this is the body of a real women because the majority of women look like that. No, that just means the majority of women are overweight and out of shape.

    BYE!

  • Fran

    i agree. i think a lot of women are just out of shape and have poor eating habits. im 5’7, 135 lbs and a size 6. i would say im an average size. for me to maintain an average size i dont drink sugary drinks and i dont eat bad foods and i exercise 3 days a week. I dont know any  people who are the so called “average size” of 12-18 that take up my same life habits, if they did dont you think they’d a 12 or below… i think so

  • Bookthief

    Come On!  Look at the skinny chick then at the voluptuous babe.  I like REAL woman with curvy curves, not a mini-me.  

     The ‘chunky one’s hot’ the skinny one’s not.  Real men want real women.

  • Bookthief

    Dude.  If your little friend points to the skinny chick instead of the curvy one…  you might need a testosterone test. 

  • Anonymous

    A size 12+ is not “curvy” its fat. Curvy is bodies like Kelly Brook, monica bellucci, eva mendes,etc. If the word curvy is coming out of the mouth of a size 10-12+ rest assured, they meant to say overweight. If 60% of Americans are overweight, and the pants size of most women is a size 12, that means that a size 12 is overweight, IE fat. I’d boink a a flat chested no ass, no hipped girl any day of the week over the girl on page 1 on the right. Look at how soft her flesh is, a bit of sag..yea, thats fat brought on by not exercising. These size wars is merely overweight girls labeling themselves “curvy” when their not too lazy to exercise and too weak minded to maintain a somewhat decent diet. Simple as that. I honestly don’t care how big someone is, that doesn’t effect me. If you want to devour every pizza and twinkie in sight more power to you. Your body your choice. But don’t sit there and incorrectly say you’re “curvy” when your not.

  • Bookthief

    “I’d boink a flat chested no assed no hipped girl…”  Dude you’re look’n for a dude.  That’s cool, I just don’t swing that way.

  • Anonymous

    and you’re looking for a cow. I hope bestiality is legal in your state! Or just a chubby chick, theres no short supply here in America. Have fun!

  • jAb

    What’s the point in having the thin model in these pics? Just looks stupid.

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  • Seoulgirly

    I’m not Asian and I’ve lived in the US for over 15 years. I’m 5’6″ and weigh 105 lbs… some people tell me I’m too skinny. This really bothers me. from where I come from size 14 is not the norm. I’m not considered skinny in my culture. and I get physicals every year and they come out normal and no doctors have asked me to gain weight. I personally have watched my roommates go from size 6 to size 12-14 within a 2 year time frame. It may be their DNA but living with them, I know for a fact they eat a lot of unhealthy food and do not workout. However, they blame other factors for their weight gain. If I have to tolerate overweight passengers taking up 1/3 of my seat in a crowded plane, I would hope that overweight people would tolerate my boney ass. Shut up about weight… shut up shut up shut up! If you think size 14 is beautiful then fine! be a size 14… but don’t go criticizing size 0-4 people for being too thin! It’s not like I criticize you for being fat! 

  • Seoulgirly

    i don’t think that picture gave a fair depiction of both sizes. plus, you can tell that they photoshopped the plus-size model to give her better complexion and soften her ass crack while the skinny model got no love from the photoshop god… 
    Maybe it’s because I am a girl but to me “curvy” is Scarlett Johansson and Sofia Vergara, skinny is Mila Kunis or Zoe Saldana. 

    I don’t find flesh rolls attractive in men or women… sure, we’re all human so if one bends a certain way, rolls might occur but if you’re standing and you have rolls… you’re fat. If you can hold a pencil between those rolls… you’re obese…

  • Delfsama

    thank you! I am pretty short and weight about 100 pounds, and despite my height my eating habits are almost always questioned. I eat a ton, it’s just relatively healthy food and I’m active. Skinny can be beautiful too!

  • thatgirlthere

    Huh? We’re all busy try-ing to combat weight-ism…if you start being age-ist, it’ll just confuse things!  In  NYC, everyone I know over thirty looks better than they did when they were UNDER thirty!

  • thatgirlthere

    Beautifully said. I modeled in the 70s and 80s, and was 5’11″ and 110 lbs, and was considered “fat”. I had to get out of modeling cuz I was too hungry to sleep at night. Now I am 145 lbs, because I only eat when I’m hungry. It’s kind of odd that something that obvious should make such a big difference, but…as Ms. Reed is saying, balance and self-respect are key. 

  • thatgirlthere

    Sizing has changed radically over the last decades. What was a 10 in 1999, would be a 6 now.

  • Read It Again

    They were speaking of plus-size models when they quoted that statistic.  You should read the caption again (2nd Photo).  No one’s beating up on thin women in this article but just asking that more models be representative of reality not fantasy.

  • A Little Information

    Cindy Crawford was a size 6 at the height of her career, today she would be considered a plus-sized model. 

  • Erinmnm13

    Why is it that whenever there are articles trying to promote plus sized woman, they always say, or imply that all the models and skinny people out there today are “unhealthy”? It’s like the only way they can think to fight their cause is to make skinny people out to be incredibly unhealthy, diseased, unnatural, and ugly. Not everyone who is skinny is anorexic, okay! I’ve been rail thin my WHOLE LIFE. I’ve had to deal with people always telling me to eat more or gain weight, even though I ate as much as the next person and was perfectly healthy. It’s just the way I am!!! I can’t help being skinny, and I couldn’t “gain weight” if I wanted to. It’s really low when advocates for plus sized models try to demean and belittle skinny people just to prove their point.

  • Erinmnm13

    also, there’s a matter of bone structure. there are ectomorphs, mesomorphs, and endomorphs in this world. An ectomorph has thin and fragile bone structure, and finds it hard to gain weight. Endomorphs are the exact opposite of this, and have big bones and find it hard to loose fat. Mesomorphs are in between. Also, metabolisms! It’s so stupid. Neither of these girls could look like each other if they tried! Why must it be proved that plus sized women are beautiful by being jerks to skinny girls! I bet that girl can’t breathe under that chick!
    here, have this website: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/body-types-ectomorph-mesomorph-endomorph.html

  • Minion2012

    Outstanding! Fantastic! Bravo! Finally, someone got it right!

  • Argoethals

    marilyn monroe was a size 12

  • Davix3u

    If she’s a plus size model, then I must be a whale. I’m a size 10, loosing weight but she doesn’t look plus size at all!

  • Disgusted

    I think the so-called “plus size” model is beautiful.  She is not “plus-size”, but rather she is NORMAL!  She looks healthy and I’m guessing her BMI is not really bad.   If you are naturally small then so be it, some of us have different metabolisms & health issues & are on medications that keep us from being “thin”.   I am 5’1″ and when I weighed 104, I remember thinking I was still fat (I’m bigger chested so I carry extra weight on top no matter what).  I’m sooo glad I’m older & wiser now.   It’s ridiculous what the body image in modeling and actresses has done to us.   I don’t even know many  men who think that ribs & hip bones sticking out are attractive.   Another problem is clothes are not standard when you wear larger than a size 4.  Why is there not one standard size chart for waist and chest sizes so that we can all accurately say we are a size “this or that”.   I know in the past, I’ve worn anywhere from a size 6 to a size 12 depending on the brand.   It’s all ridiculous.  Another question – why don’t we see short models???   I know one female in my life that is 5’8, one 5’9″ and the rest are all around 5’3″-5’5″.   What happened to reality????

  • http://twitter.com/EdPaisleyCPA Edward F. Paisley

    Twenty years ago the average fashion model weighed 8% less than the average woman.  Today she weighs 23% less.  What about a comparison with models of 20 years ago and height differences and other differences.  As a mathematician I can only conclude that “the average woman” is 15% heavier now than she was 20years ago.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kendall-Tober/711909553 Kendall Tober

    This is so true. My daughter is 5’9″ and weighs 110 lbs. She eats… a lot! She’s just thin. Total strangers will tell her that she needs to put on weight or call her skinny. My daughter would never go up to a plus sized woman and tell her she could stand to lose a few pounds or call her chubby. 
    It’s about being natural, healthy, and having clothes that flatter all body types!

  • Fjkl

    your comment is incorrect. i am 5’9 and 108 pounds and i eat very healthily and am not concerned about my weight. if anything, i wish i had more body mass… but i have a fast metabolism. i have never dieted, exercised, or starved myself to lose weight; my body type is natural, and it’s quite hurtful for you to describe it as “hideous”.

  • Momoko

    Well thank you for telling us, those who are naturally skinny, that we look hideous. Respect goes both ways.

  • Hjkljkl

    as opposed to fake women…? you’re an idiot.

  • Zach

    Where did you get you’re information from? I mean its not healthy to be either underweight or overweight.

    Also, its not promoting being overweight as being okay. Its promoting being healthy! To learn to love your body and not starve yourself to be what is considered beautiful!

  • Bookthief

    I’ll bet you’re a flat chested reed. 

  • concaved

    The average weight of an American citizen actually hasn’t increased that much from the 70s till now.  Some models are naturally skinny, yes.  BMI is bunk science, yes.  But you can’t convince me that many models are unnaturally skinny and that has formed a stigma on what is beautiful.  Fucking please.

  • sjw

    I think you are seriously mistaken in your ideas of what is “fat” and “lazy.” I am 5’7,” 155lbs, wear a size 10-12 in pants. My kitchen is stocked with whole grain breads and cereals, fruits, veggies, lean meats…no twinkies here. At my last physical, I was deemed to be in near perfect health. My favorite outdoor activity involves a 7 mile hike up a steep mountain. I’m pretty sure no one has ever called me “fat” before–occasionally “thick” or “curvy,” but more often “skinny” or “slim.” You probably have no idea what a size 12 actually looks like. You also have no idea that this “fat” model most likely works with a personal trainer and/or a nutritionist to keep her body in the shape that it’s in while ensuring she is healthy. She’s probably healthier than you.

  • Alissa

    It would have been nice to make this very important point about the pressure put on women and the unrealistic standards of the beauty industry without photoshopping her face and body into oblivion to make her look like a realdoll slathered in makeup. Good try, definitely no cigar.

  • Guest

    I know right.  I remember reading that Marilyn was considered the average size of models in those days.  What I don’t get is that now a size 6 is considered plus size by the modeling world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dakota-Conrad/100000558155440 Dakota Conrad

    Very sexy girl!  Work it! omg I think she is very attractive much more so than these models you see these days.  This is what a REAL woman looks like =D

  • http://www.facebook.com/kayley.gillespie Kayley Gillespie

    Let’s all consider HEALTH. When more than 30% of the U.S. is classified as overweight/obese, it is easy for people to slander the thin model. Eating disorders are very real, the media sets forth an image, yadda yadda. You can be unhealthy at ANY size. Don’t assume someone’s healthy if they’re skinny and don’t assume someone isn’t if they’re thicker. Exercise and eat clean. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/kayley.gillespie Kayley Gillespie

    A size 12 today is also not the same size as a size 12 fifty years ago. We need to be conscious of the context that we’re speaking within. Also, even today, sizes aren’t standard. A handful of size 12 clothing from various stores can vary by many, many inches.

  • Revenwyn

    Not so true.

    I am 5’4″, size 16, 180 pounds and guess what? There’s nothing to pinch on my body. According to the most technologically advanced form of finding body fat (the dexa scan can be used for body composition) I have 19% body fat; this is actually in the fitness zone for most female athletes. What’s the difference then? I have a large frame (I’m Cherokee) and have a lot of muscle mass.

    Not everyone who is over a certain weight or size is fat.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kayley.gillespie Kayley Gillespie

    But, today, overweight is becoming a majority, so it is easy to criticize thin people instead of addressing an epidemic.
     

  • Revenwyn

    Yes and no.

    She was a 50′s size 12, which is the equivalent of our modern day size 8. Back in the 50′s, every respectable woman wore at least a girdle under their clothing at ALL times, and among celebrities corsets were making somewhat of a comeback. A girdle decreased the waist by around 4 inches. What they did is that when women stopped wearing girdles under their clothing is that they increased the waist size on garments by 4 inches while keeping the hip measurement the same. So where a modern day 12 is a 30 inch waist back then it was a 26 inch waist. Actually in Marilyn Monroe’s case, she was a modern day size 6 in the waist and a 8 for her bust and hips. Of course these are girdled measurements.

  • Hotteach5242001

    Holy hell if she is a plus size woman then I’m a frigging COW….wow people are so into body size and most models are not real woman size.

  • Wendym02

    The “thin” model is just that..THIN!  Her ribs are not showing.  She is not anorexic

  • Keddyone

    The fact is that most of America is overweight. I am overweight. Why? Because I’ve become lazy, my own fault. Do I look at skinny models and become offended by that? No. Do I accept the fact my doctor is telling me my 30 pounds overweight is O.K. as long as I feel good about myself? No. Fact is I used to be in extraordinary shape and because of life, schedules, laziness, etc. I’ve packed on a few pounds. Our society tries to tell me I’m just fine the way I am, but, truth be told, this is just other overweight people trying to justify their own excess weight. Extra weight is not healthy, it taxes your body, slows your metabolism and opens you up to variety of health problems in the future, or the present for that matter. With our day and age of electronic this and computer that we as a people don’t exercise like we used to, just by being active and not sitting in front of a screen, be it a computer, TV, whatever.

  • Susanne

    The “facts” shown in the ads are misleading because over 60% of Americans are now obese, making the typical model far thinner than the average woman–and to compensate, American clothing brands keep making their clothes larger–so while I used to be a size 4, now I often wear a 2 or a 0, even though I am slightly heavier. 

  • guest

    The fat lady has rolls… That’s not beautiful, it’s gross.  And there was no need to get naked to say she’s beautiful.  All she’s proving is she’s willing to bare it all.  

  • guest

    THANK YOU SKINNY GIRL ! ! ! !  I have been 5’0” and 98lbs pretty much all my life and was always criticized for being too skinny.  I did not starve myself and always ate pretty healthy and exercised regularly.  Just because most of my co-workers who weight 200-350lbs and eat candy or junk food at their desk all day, DOES NOT mean that I have to follow “the norm” and eat to look like them.  Just because the average size is 10 or 12 does not mean that me being a size 0 or 1 is wrong.  I am skinny and I am healthy so leave me the f&@$# alone!!!!! 

  • Ocean5000

    I am obese and I totally agree with your comment. America needs to get healthy at any size.

  • Kelz

    Wow, all of you are forgetting something huge!  All of you are expressing opinions and ideals of what is too fat, too thin for fashion models, plus size models, etc… you’re forgetting the issue of the fact that it simply is an issue and for mostly whom? WOMEN.  Women all over the world are plagued with standards, images, objectifications,ideals, postitions in societies and much more.  Why are WE faced with this problem with our bodies that has been lasting for generations, wait, centuries.  keep asking yourselves why are we women dealing with this ongoing turmoil with our appearences?  Just keep asking yourself that and you will figure it out someday. 

  • Asadblaq

    I do not know butt they are having fun.

  • Anonymous

    Mayilyn Monroe was a size 10.  She was considered to be a sex goddess.  Today, she would not be able to get a role.  Skinny women with flat butts, no calves, pencil arms and countable vertebrae are not attractive.  Nor are they healthy – there is such a thing as too thin.

  • Anonymous

    Take a good look at Marilyn.  She was not thin.  She had hips and curves.  I was a kid in the 50′s and you are making incorrect assumptions about sizes.  Now, more than then, more expensize stores’ sizes ran larger, so a woman who was a 10 at a “cheap” store would be an 8 or a 6 at an expensive store.  But in those days, there were almost no cheap stores.  This still hold true today – if you are a 10 at Walmart, you are an 8 at Macy’s.

  • Sportsgirl1197

    I’m so sick of media trying to make “normal” women feel bad because they aren’t stick thin.  Yes, Jennifer Aniston has a great body for someone her age, but she hasn’t had a baby and she doesn’t work 50 hours a week, 50 weeks a year.   She also has a trainer, a chef, and someone to clean her house and mow her yard.  We’d all look like that if we had the same advantages.   I’m 5’6″, weigh 150 lbs., but have 18% body fat and wear a size 6.  I work for a living and have kids, so I try to eat healthy and workout when I can.   I’m very proud of my body, I’ve worked hard for it.   

    Yes, there are women who are naturally thin, we shouldn’t hate them because of their size any more than we should hate larger women because of theirs.

  • Cyn5lockwood

    I was watching  movie from the 60′s girls in bikinis were thin but no to the state that we have become.  This all started with Twiggy in the 60′s.  The “plus size” gal was not fat in these photos  She looked healthy.  The thin model was just that anorexic.  She had no muscle.  She was literally skin and bones.  Watch some movies from the 60′s when girls were proud to have hour glass fiqures and yes still wear a itty bitty polka dot bikini!!!

  • Anonymous

    No “Models are under constant pressure to be unaturally skinny! And sir it is NOT natural for a girl/women whos 5’8-5’9 to weigh in at 120lbs.! I should know Im a doctor! Im not saying that Ive never seen girls/women tall and thin but most women just are not! Modeling agencies pick young TEENAGE girls to model.WHY? Because they still have that undeveloped look to them.As they get older into there 18,19,20 they start to look grossly skinny trying to keep up w/the appearence they had at a pre-pubecence. I agree women/girls look horriable to skiny.

  • Anonymous

    Thats because u have high motaboliziam.UR NOT A MODEL R U?NO I DIDNT THINK SO! The topic is: Are models to skinny?  Not are you! Im 5’2 and 110lbs. and no one qustions my “eating habbits”. They say Im petite. But when a girl/women who is 5’8 and up weights 100-115lbs. thats sickly and gross and extreamly un-natural. Ur normal cause ur hieght to fat ratio is normal idiot.

  • Anonymous

    God,Do any of you people know the topic??? Its about The Pressures Of MODELS to be un-naturally skinny for there spicific body type!!! NOT YOURS! There for the ad showing the thin women and “heavier” women is to make a point that we are sending a horriable message to our youth.We are saying that EVERYONE should be skinny! And we all know thats impossiable! Im 5’2 and 115lbs.So I know what its like to be small.But skinny is NOT always PRETTY.Quit making this artical about YOU read it and look at it for what it says.What dose the message say?

  • Debraanelson

    Wow… a doctor that resorts to calling someone an “idiot” ? I wouldn’t be interested in a doctor that acted so immature.. kinda scary really.. and if you can’t spell “skinny” (skiny) or “horrible” (horriable) then I surely amnot trusting you to diagnose me nor will I respect your opinion just because you claim to be a doctor. As if doctors are never wrong.. even ones that can spell. Also I am quite sure a dietician would disagree with you. But hey “doc” thanks for making people feel so good about themselves ~sarcasm~

  • dnel

    Wow… a doctor that resorts to calling someone an “idiot” ? I wouldn’t be interested in a doctor that acted so immature.. kinda scary really.. and if you can’t spell “skinny” (skiny) or “horrible” (horriable) then I surely amnot trusting you to diagnose me nor will I respect your opinion just because you claim to be a doctor. As if doctors are never wrong.. even ones that can spell. Also I am quite sure a dietician would disagree with you. But hey “doc” thanks for making people feel so good about themselves ~sarcasm~

  • Ripper

    On the contrary… it has EVERYTHING to do with what people like Kendall posted.  Models are pressured to be extra thin, and a lot of times they’re airbrushed to be even thinner than what they really are.  They are then putting the pressure on otherwise normal girls that you should be that impossibly thin, and that’s how some of your eating disorders start because they can’t reach that thinness by normal means.

    If they used a more diverse set of models with various body types (and BMIs), and didn’t rely on airbrushing models thin, we wouldn’t be reading this.  Simple as that.

    And lastly, from a guy’s perspective, if I were to choose between the thin model and the plus-sized one… I’m going with the plus-sized one.  She just looks more attractive to me than someone who is 110.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1220775270 Christopher King

    Between these two women, plus me up, bro. BTW have fun watching the Louboutin v. YSL case: http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2012/01/kingcast-fetishizes-over-louboutin-v.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1220775270 Christopher King

    I don’t think mad or frightened said that. And yes you are right respect goes both ways.

  • AppleBlossom

    I agree. I am 5’2” and weight 157. I work out 5 days a week and eat a very healthy diet (much to my children’s dismay.) I have good blood pressure, blood sugar, heart bead, and cholesterol. I do not drink or do drugs. I rarely eat fried foods, and even go so far as to not use salad dressing, instead using vinegar and a spash of olive oil. Yet I am considered ‘obese’ by the charts. I refuse to starve myself to be thin and have a certain number on the scale.
    Yet, I have a cousin who could eat a cheesecake for every meal, does not work out, drinks, and is 5’4” wearing a size 0.
    BMI and weight have NOTHING to do with ultimate health! I may not be a doctor, but I do know I am healthier than my cousin; despite my heavier weight.

  • AppleBlossom

    Sorry, I meant heart beat, not bead. I really need to learn to proofread before clicking post!

  • Laurel E Washburn

    I am naturally 5′ 8 1/2″ and 120 lbs. I do not have unhealthy eating habits and I do not exercise excessively. 

  • Anonymous

    You my friend are a douch if you can’T see a type-O to save ur insignificant life then yes DEBRANNELSON YOUR MY F**KING TAMPON!!!!!

  • Tiacee

    “Idiot” really???? Real classy.  BTW.. I’m 5’7 and 104 lbs.  This is my natural weight.  My whole family is tall and thin,  and we don’t need insensitve bone heads like YOU calling us “sickly and gross and extreamly un-natural”. Not only could I “out eat” you… I could probably out run you, out work you, and out think you.  My weight is natural, not gross, or sickly.  Who the hell are you to decide what is “normal” or not?  I love how it’s now PC to pick on the skinny people because of the way they look.  I will NOT go hide in my house just because some poor child, with no guidance from their parents, may develope a body issue over believing their body have any relevance to their worth as a human being.  Grow up!!! 

  • Tiacee

    And yet you keep bringing up YOUR WEIGHT and YOUR OPINIONS… how about you stop making this about YOU?? Don’t tell me MY body is not appropriate for public viewing because YOU believe people like me are a “bad influence”.  Thin girls deserve to know they are not “gross, sickly, and un-natural” just because they are thin.  ALL body types are natural and have a right to be represented.

  • Tiacee

    A doctor??? Hardly.  No way this dude made it through medical scholl with his spelling and grammer.  No, this is a wannabe who gets off on insulting other people because of the way they look.  Get a life jinies… a real one.

  • Tiacee

    A doctor… ya right, I call B.S.

  • Tiacee

    If thats her natural weight it IS healthy… how about you stop trying to pressure naturally thin woman to fit in to your “ideal” body image.  Stop the BS people and except EVERYONE for the way they look.  Skinny people don’t need to feel “unatural” just to make others feel better about themselves.  Couldn’t agree with you more alc2695. 

  • Hjkljkl

    hahahaha! oh my god, you’re so stupid!

  • Inga

    Thank you!!! I am 5’9 and 125lbs, a size 2 NATURALLY. I am tired of these posts making woman like me feel terrible for being this way normally. I have always been thin and take very good care of myself.

  • Beth

    I am just shy of 5’7″ and am often asked if I model. I have been offered jobs by photographers.  Sadly, for most modelling opportunities, I am too short.  Until I had children, I always weighed under 125.  After having had two healthy babies, one of whom nearly weighed 10 pounds,  I now tip the scales between 130-135.  I eat pretty much what I want but I remain active.  There is nothing unhealthy about my eating habits except perhaps my chocolate intake.  I eat a lot of vegetables, fruit, and a variety of meats and whole grains.  I prefer fresh over processed foods.  I eat small meals frequently .  People are often amazed at much food I can put away!  My mom used to tell me and my sister “pretty girl is as pretty girl does.”  It is not about how you look on the outside, but who you are on the inside and feeling comfortable about who you are .

    I happen to agree that our society puts too much pressure on outward appearances, especially on women. There is too much pressure on being thin, but also having the right eye and hair color, wearing the right labels, and being seen with the right people.  Personally, I love the unique individuals who are who they are and I prefer interesting people who are beautiful on the inside rather than people who must impress me for who I am or what I look like.  I have worked very hard to instill this in my teenagers.  It is tough growing up in today’s culture.

  • Dan

    Yes, Susanne, you are exactly right. Apparently they never require any math classes for a journalism degree. The so-called facts in the presentation imply that supermodels have gotten ever thinner, which is not the case. Models are exactly the same size they were 30 years ago, but 30 years ago the average woman weighed something like 132. Today the average woman is pretty close to obese, about 160. I don’t think we should be blaming the fashion industry for the fact that people can’t stop at one Snickers.

  • Fourd

    Gross and un-natural? To hell with you. I’m 5’10″ and 120 pounds. There is nothing I can do about that. It’s hereditary. I eat ice cream, pizza, whatever I want. The last thing I need is to hear hurtful comments. Skinny girls have feelings too. The key to life is loving who you are. I love hour glass shaped women. What I would kill to have a set of “girls” instead of my A’s! We’ve all got a short time here, the important thing is to stop portraying to society that women should desire to be sizes that are not genetically possible for them. All sizes are natural and possible, just not to all women.

  • Anonymous

    so much negativity here. i just have to say WOOOW zharkova looks FANTASTIC! and the slim model next to her, well, i don’t mind her and hope she’s happy and healthy and all, but her figure seems rather dull on these pictures. thumbs up to the photographer!

  • Pee Bee

    if i could click like on this comment a thousand times, i’d want to click like two thousand.

    very well said.

  • Pee Bee

    seriously? you think the slim model looks like a hunger victim? you’re clearly blind. there are no visible ribs or other signs of starvation, just a woman who is slim. i wonder about anyone who can look at someone who is clearly naturally slim and equate them with famine victims. that’s some very distorted thinking there.

  • Pee Bee

    they did in their comment up above describing the slim model as a ‘hunger victim’.

  • Pee Bee

    so you start out by insulting an anonymous model for being ‘scary’ (frankly she’s just slim, and clearly healthy) and then call anyone who questions your meanness a bully. direct that word back at yourself, dearie.

  • Pee Bee

    i guess you like inflataboobs.

  • Pee Bee

    look up marilyn monroe’s measurements, according to her dressmaker, were 36-23-37. she was an exaggerated hourglass shape – boobs and hips, but a teeny little waist. she wasn’t the postergirl for the plus size market she’s now held up to be.

  • Pee Bee

    marilyn’s measurements were 36-23-37. nothing like a modern size 12.

  • Pee Bee

    marilyn’s measurements were 36-23-37. try and know the facts before using her as a poster girl for plus sizes. she was nowhere near plus sized.

  • Jlnlee

    You’re fuckin rude and need to stop being so shallow….some women that might be “over weight” does not mean they sit home and and ALL day long on twinkies you nasty ass bastard….I am so sick and tired of people like you…..IF YOU DON’T WEAR THE ROBE, THEN DON’T JUDGE!!!!!!!

  • Bookthief

    Are you an inflataboob?  Maybe we could be friends.

  • Threenorns

    BMI is bullshit.  all is says is that if your weight is “x” and your height is “y”, then you are/are not overweight.it’s CRAP.you get two men:  both weigh 250lbs.automatically, about 80% of you are picturing lardass on the couch with a bag of crisps.but what if Mr X has a waist of 52 and Mr Y has a waist of 32?Mr X is indeed a couch potato but Mr Y is a champion athlete.but according to BMI, they are equally at risk for heart disease, diabetes, etc!?

    BULLSHIT.hip-to-waist ratio has been proven over and over again to be a far more accurate indicator and yet still they keep up with the stupid BMI.

  • Karen

    They aren’t talking about 5′ and 100 lbs, they are talking about 5’9″ and a 100 lbs. you might be thin, but you aren’t as thin as some of these models

  • Msartain

    There is a distinctive difference between naturally skinny and unhealthy.  Those who are genetically thin look, well thin.  Those who have an eating disorder have other signs and symptoms to show for it.  This spread shows the difference in the plus size standards throughout the years, which is something to be discussed, but we also need to teach our children to make healthy eating choices so they are healthy happy individuals, not too skinny and definitely not obese either.  Educating young girls (and boys) about the importance of self worth and respecting yourself, having confidence and being secure in who you are, these are the important lessons we need to teach as parents!

  • Bingo

    The ‘plus size’ model has a beautiful eyes, face, hair and smile and gets away with being overweight because of that. She looks lovely, but she is still overweight. Look at her back fat rolls! The other model is skinny and could do with a few pounds on her, but she’s not anorexic.
    We have a world full of obese people who sit and watch ‘biggest loser’ shows because it makes them feel better as there is always someone fatter and lazier than them. I have no sympathy for fat people. If I put on a kilo or two, I burn it off by exercising more, eating less or simply better foods and cut down on the alcohol.

  • Jcs36

    Not necessarily true though. I am 5’6″ and right now weigh about 160. I would love to be 140 and hopefully will figure out what I need to do to get there without going to extremes. Having said that, I have the exact same eating, drinking and exercise habits that I have had my whole adult life. The difference is I am 41 now and have had 3 children, one just a year and a half ago. When I was 21 I weighed 125 lbs. Like I said, nothing has changed except time and  life. Also, I am a size 12 and to the earlier post, saying anything over a ten is fat, well that is ridiculous.

  • Jcs36

    Some people just don’t get it! I’m sure our friendly poster above is a real hottie himself, LOL!! What grown man uses them term boink??

  • D1mpld1

    My daughter (17) eats a TON, is 5’8 and weighs about 117. She has to gain weight just to join the military and is trying whatever means necessary including drinking whey protein shakes. I think some people have a misguided perception of “hideously skinny” versus naturally skinny. When you starve yourself and try to lose weight….that is hideously skinny. when you are naturally thin and eat a well balanced diet, you are beautiful just the way you are. My daughter is beautiful….she is perfect just the way she is.

  • Colleen71

    I am 5″ 10 and my best wieght according to my Dr. is just what I am 141 pounds and I have been told I have a excellent body ratio – I am active and play high school basketball so most of my weight is muscle. I see a lot of my female clas mates starve themselves or go into the bathroom at school after lunch and vomit! I liked the ad about larger sized women because a size 14 is perfect for me! It is hard to find clothes and shoes (Size 10) that look good! so please fashion designers stop making me feel fat!

  • Aliosh

    Really impressive how the girl in the first picture could bend over ( IN HEELS ) so that her head touched her knees…..!

  • Poppi_Culo_Esq

    Hey… I’d Take The Thick Chick (Plus-Sized) In Picture 1; Bent Over, In My Room When I Get Home From The Office ANY DAY………. THAT’S GORGEOUS!!!

  • Anonymous

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  • http://twitter.com/hatchNsnatch Lauren Hatcher

    I feel as if everyone on here is kinda missing the point. Its not persecuting the skinny its saying there is very little diversity on sizes in the modeling world. That is it.  But to be honest as long as “WE” as a society buy magazines and obsesses over weight issues this will never go away. This is CLEARLY a hot topic, but instead of taking this blog as personal attacks on the skinny. View it as helping all different size women to feel confident about them selves, SKINNY or PLUS SIZE. 

  • Kit

    Ew

  • Kay

    Please. Why don’t people complain that models are too tall or too beautiful? If you’re in the fashion industry, you’d understand. Fashion is best displayed on tall & skinny bodies, simple as that. Why do you think on project runway when they have regular people as models the skinniest ones are picked first?

    ‘Real clothes’ for ‘real’ women (eileen fisher, Ann Taylor, Chico, etc)… NOT fashion.

    & since when did models become role models anyway? They are simply walking clothes hangers. Are we so sad as a society that our girls can’t find role models with substance instead?

  • stormyII

     Ok, gang, calm down.  I’m 5’4, and due to medical issues, I weigh more than several of you put together, evidently.  Do I care? Yes, because of the strain on my heart, but that’s the only reason.  I’m also confined to a wheelchair, so please don’t go off about all the walking I could do…I would.  The point here is that nobody who is eating in a healthy manner should have to take any crap about their size. Period.  Size, looks, hair color, eye color, skin tone, golly, what else?  Leave it, please, and teach your kids to appreciate each person as the individual they are, not the body type.  That would go a whole long way toward ending some of the unfortunate hurt in this world. Thanks.

  • beryl

    Girls, the most important thing is being HEALTHY, whether that is at 100lbs or 180. Love your body and take care of it. I think it is wrong to demonize the skinny, but we do need to recognize that many models go to unhealthy extremes to maintain their weights due to overwhelming pressure from the industry, and teaching skinny equals desirable is wrong. Teaching heavy equals desirable is wrong. We need to aim for a person’s best health and mental happiness! But that’s easier said than done, when some fashion and cosmetics companies stay in business by encouraging girls to hate themselves. It’s a shame.

  • Crazson34

     I’m a male nurse. If you’re a Dr., you should not have a license. A perfectly healthy 5’10″ woman can weigh 120lbs. and have no problems whatsoever. On the same note, a 5′ girl can weigh 130 lbs. and be healthy. It’s all about metabolism. I bet you don’t know the difference in type A and type B LDLs do you?

  • Crazson34

     BMI is a failed index. I’m a male nurse and take no stock in it. A size 12 CAN be curvy and sexy. A size 2 can also be sexy and even curvy. It just depends on body type.  They can both be equally healthy. If a person goes by BMI, most are labeled obese when they are not. Metabolism has so much to do with it. I have seen skinny girls who appeared to be in shape die due to excess alcohol and smoking. Too many variables to judge as a whole. Hey pal, leave the size 12/14 women to me. I’ve seen them even bigger and be hot as hell when they know how to carry themselves. I’ve also seen super model types who eat horrible diets and act like whores. It all depends on the lady. I’m guessing you are single with the shallow mind. That too is unhealthy.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say MM was a postergirl for the plus-size market. You made that assumption.  I was replying to the above comment, which equated today’s size 8 with a 50′s size 12. That’s a stretch.  What I WILL say is way too many movie stars and models today look terrible – bony backs, collarbones sticking up, twig arms with no muscle, and no calves unless they wear 5″ heels.  The only big thing on them is their silicone breasts, and some of them look top heavy as hell. Since I lived in the 50′s and my mom (hourglass figure) looked great, I can comment from experience on what was considered sexy then. And it wasn’t women built like 12-year-old girls except for oversized tits.

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  • Michelle

    so because skinny ppl are automaticly gross and extreamly un-natural in your opinion, we can all assume your very overweight?
    dosnt seem fair to be judged? didnt think so…
    yes the standard for models is execessive… but the problem lies not just with fashion models or fashion mags and ads, it also lies with the tabloids who report that at 128 lbs Lady Gaga is fat, or that Halle Berry put on 5 lbs and it all went to her hips and now it looks like cottage cheese… they read this too. Its up to us to make sure our daughters understand beauty as it pertains to them, that no matter skinny, fat, blonde, brunette, prim or grunge, that they will always be beautiful and teach to be confident in their own skin. parents talk about sex and drugs along side other things far more important then self worth. We all need to fix this

  • Mur

    Um, you are an idiot. Why do you think they wrote the article in the first place? They wrote this article because not only are we having a problem with models being to skinny, it is effecting the way society vues all woman. So yes this article could pertain to any number of woman out there who society also vues as too skinny. If you weren’t two busy being a huge b**** you might have understood that from the article and the other woman’s comments. The controversy of models being to skinny isn’t exclusive to models, because it effects all the woman who look at them. If it didn’t effect society and woman as a whole then nobody would care at all.

  • http://danijdo.blogspot.com/ DJ

    I feel like everyone here is missing the message.  It’s not about “I weigh this much and I’m healthy,” it’s about the fact that skinny, 5’7” and up, 120 lbs and down is the body type most glorified by the main stream fashion industry.  If you are the above description, congratulations.  This article does not claim that you are unhealthy, it just claims that you are the only body type represented by the majority of ads/catalogues/campaigns/etc.  Sure, there is a plus size fashion industry, but do you see these models in J. Crew?  How about Chanel?  Marc Jacobs?  No.  The only body type that is represented by a majority of higher end fashion companies is very thin, and very tall.  Does that make everyone who has this type of body to blame?  No, it’s the fashion industry for not marketing and designing for girls who have more curves than the very thin models.  That is becoming the ideal of beauty, and it’s not ok to make beauty into one cookie cutter design.  Beauty of all sizes needs to be celebrated.  So that’s the focus, and that’s the problem.  So how about we stop making this a place to give our height and weight and talk about what we eat, because really, it matters to no one else besides you.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure what standards you’re using for “obese”, but it isn’t the BMI. For a woman who’s 5′, 160 is already obese (not “pretty close to it”). Whereas for women 5’8″ and taller, 160 is well within the normal range.

  • Puttyputty

     totally agree, i don’t see why being obese is suddenly considered healthy, they keep setting the line where people are considered anorexic lower and lower… clothing sizes are getting bigger and bigger(i’m a 2000 size 4 but a 2012 size 0)  and that ad is incredibly misleading the reason models are 23% small now is because the average person has gotten drastically larger. i’m not naturally thin in fact i have hypothyroidism which makes me put on weight really easily but if i gain too quickly i get really sick and my skin starts ripping i have to eat a lot less calories than the average person and exercise daily just to maintain my weight, but i do so because thats what is healthy, modern culture is so confused about issues of health, it really is sad.

  • Kimberly

    The problem is if you read the article that a size 6 model like Cindy Crawford and Christie Brinkley who were Supermodels years ago.  Would be considered a plus sized model by todays standards.  So this isn’t just about women being over weight in the general public.  The modeling standards are requiring models to be much smaller than 20-30 years ago. Some people are naturally that small.  These people are not who this article is addressing.  This article is addressing the constraints laid out by the modeling industry to be much much smaller than a size 6.  All of these girls are not naturally thin, some of these girls do border on anorexic BMI’s.  And if you think no one had ever made fun of the heavier girls who are naturally a size 10, you are sadly mistaken.  It is done as early as elementary and middle school here in America.  These girls are shown today’s models as an acceptable standard for their weight and that is not correct.  We all come in different shapes and sizes but the industry doesn’t show that.  It only shows the overly thin women as acceptable.  For those of you that are thin, this is not a direct attack on you, but showing what this influence has on society and our children.  My 12 year old SON thinks he is too fat.  He is perfectly healthy and an average weight.  So where would he get this idea??  Not at home I promise you that.  There is not an inch of fat on his body, yet he worries over his weight while going through puberty.  These are the effects outlined in this article.  Not that all skinny people are gross.  I happen to think the Cindy and Christie would be considered thin, but now they would be labeled as Plus Sized??  That is completely insane.  When the actresses gain weight for whatever reason on television, no one passes up an opportunity to blast them for their weight gain.  It is done every year through the media, if they dont lose baby weight fast enough or any other various reasons.  They have increased from their size 2 or 4 to a size 6 or 8 and then they are labeled fat.  Christina Aguilera was blasted for being too skinny, so she put on weigh to appease the fans, as soon as she did they started calling her fat.  There is a no win situation that the media is creating in regards to womens weight.  All all of our children see and hear this and strive to fit in.  There is no way to conform to these standards when the standards change in the public eye from day to day.  It is terrible what they are telling our children.

  • Sara

    The last time I was skinny (versus normal or slightly overweight, which I usually am), people told me I looked great and would ask for my “secret.” If I was in a nasty enough mood, I’d tell them why–I had cancer. The looks on their faces were invariably priceless. 

    The problem is not with skinniness per se–as evidenced by previous comments, it is perfectly possible to be thin and healthy, just as it is perfectly possible to be normal weight or overweight o curvy (whatever that means) and healthy. However, if a woman is pressured to live on, say, Diet Coke and cigarettes to stay at a certain size and must do so to get jobs and to be considered attractive, I think we can all agree that’s not healthy, not supportive, not kind…etc. Is it really that radical to consider and accept a wide variety of sizes and body types as beautiful? 

    Also, women’s sizes in the US are a complete puzzle. I have clothes right now in my closet that range from size 6 to 14…and they all fit me comfortably. I wish there were some rhyme or reason to the sizing…like, say, guy’s clothes. You have a 29″ waist? You wear a size 29 jeans. Easy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=560615274 John Cantzon Foster

     Being 180 lbs is simply not healthy unless you are 6’5″ or so. America’s biggest problem is not too much pressure on women to be skinny. Actually it is most women and men being too fat.  Americans eat too much and don’t exercise enough. That’s the truth and denying it is pure folly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=560615274 John Cantzon Foster

     You are one of the few honest and rational people commenting here. I too am overweight. But I don’t blame anyone but myself and I don’t rationalize it by making excuses.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=560615274 John Cantzon Foster

     She’s pretty darned heavy.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, I cannot believe how it has gone from “Fat People are Disgusting” to “Skinny People are Disgusting”!  It may not always be that exaggerated, but skim the comments and tell me you don’t take away the same thing…
    BTW, that girl in the pictures, she is a “2012 Size 8..” yet, if we are counting REAL sizing and not the extremely-generous numbers given by mass-produced “labels”, she looks more like a Size 14 to 16… The skinny girl?  She is probably a “Real” Size 4, maybe 2…

    I admit, I am not a female; I am a 6’3″ male (former-model,and I am straight, so no negative remarks) who weighs between 170-195lbs (although always with the same body fat: 4.0-6.25%) depending on a number of factors, including: how my workouts are focused (whether it is 5x2hrs of lifting a week, or 4x 30mi bike rides a week, or a combination), what percentage of my diet is protein/carbs/fats (my only restriction is avoiding simple carb’s and “unnatural” fats), and a lot of factors outside of my control. 
    It is not up to me to decide what genes are active, how my own body stores its fat reserves (everyone “puts it on” in different places), and so on.  JUST as it is not a “choice” by some people to be very skinny, it just is how they are; no amount of eating is going to change that; I have heard people tell female friends of mine (5’6″ 110lbs to 5’11″ 125lbs) that they should “eat some *insert disgusting processed food here*”.  These girls, I have known them a long time, and while they do have an excellent diet, it is not at all inappropriate; they eat 1600-2100kcal every day, and actually eat similarly to myself in that they go for around 40-50% protein, 10-25% fats, and the rest is complex carbohydrates (25-45grams of which are fiber).

    SOME PEOPLE JUST HAVE A HIGH METABOLISM!  OTHERS ARE VERY PHYSICALLY ACTIVE!  It is pathetic; now that the nation is more “fat” than “normal”, people are so concerned about their kid’s “body image” that THOSE OF US WHO ARE HEALTHY are being discriminated against! There is NOTHING healthy about being a 12 year old girl, 5ft4in tall, and weighing 175lbs!!!  How can we tell that girl to be “okay” with her body image?  Her psyche is important, but even more so is not ENCOURAGING her to eat the same way, continuing to gain weight! 
    Obesity is epidemic in the U.S., and yet now we are encouraging people to “be yourself, be fat”?  That is ridiculous, and only serves to make the fat people feel better while hurting them immensely in the long run.
    Never have I seen these “feel good about your beautiful (fat) body” ads mention the immense health problems caused by a BMI of 27 or higher, which is generous as it is…. Here’s a very small sample of diseases/disorders LIKELY to happen:
    - Diabetes, Pancreatitis, Insulin Resistance, Hyperinsulinemia, Improper Blood Lipid levels (High-LDL and Low-HDL levels), Severely High Serum Cholesterol, Chronic Hypertension, Cardiac Pumping Disorders, “Metabolic Syndrome”, Decreased Sex Hormone Levels (~40-70% drop in Test/Estro), Polycystic Ovary Syndrome, ALL Endocrine System Disorders, Hypothyroidism, Dyslipidemia, Blood Clots, Severe Stroke, Myocardial Infarction, Atherosclerosis and/or Arteriosclerosis, and a LOT MORE
    What is really scary is what being heavily overweight can do to a child, except that they don’t have to be “excessively overweight” to suffer lifetime consequences… Just 20% overweight can leave them damaged permanently

  • T Mallette

    Except for one very interesting fact – supermodels from the 1980s were my impossible to replicate role models in my twenties but in comparison at least they had some curves and many looked athletic [because the reality is genetics plays a huge role in all this as noted by the thin people who can't keep weight on ehem perhaps it works the other way as well.] 

     Helena Christensen my fav supermodel of that era has said a few times that she and her many of her colleagues including Cindy Crawford, if they were trying to get into the modelling business today at the same age and size would be considered TOO FAT/TOO BIG for runway work. That to me is appalling. . And it makes the reality of photoshopping already thinner models more appalling. Especially when  the model herself is outraged. 

    So why not swing back to at least the aesthetic of the 1980s. Fashion industry could do it overnight if it wanted. You don’t have to idealize overweight and unhealthy just not idealize too thin. Idealize healthy and normal BMI. Idealize athletic. A lot of athletic women would be considered overweight by normal standards but they are solid muscle and everyone knows muscle mass is heavier and they  have the minimum but still safe amount of body fat  be considered healthy. I think the problem has been focusing on extremes is what has got society out of wack.

    You just have to watch any of these modelling competition or scouting reality shows to know that the fashion industry is sick itself. The girls that are called fat or too big are not.

    What I have never understood is that how do designers let themselves miss out on a huge part of the market out there. If you are truly a great designer you should be able to design for different body types. Even a lot of the male models looks anorexic to me. Maybe they are just naturally skinny but men are not as gullible as women. They aren’t going to starve themselves to fit into the latest designer fashions. They would sell a lot more menswear using manly looking men with some bulk to them. T

  • T Mallete

    And the other reality it just because you are overweight, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH AND YOUR OVERALL LIFESTYLE  doesn’t necessarily mean you are unhealthy EITHER , there is a range. Obese is not healthy and even obese people can agree on that, but you still need clothes until you can get it together if you can ever get it together. I notice the nicer exercise clothes, the fabrics that breathe better for example,  rarely comes in larger sizes, it is better than it was but does that make sense? The other reality is going up and down in weight all the time, being the yo-you dieter is far more unhealthy than if you maintain the same weight even if it is not the ideal weight.

  • Parsons

    I have heard a theory that designers started caterting more to Asian markets where women are naturally more petite as a rule without question  but not tall so somehow it morphed into expecting all 5 foot 10 North American and European models to have the body shape of petite Asian women, whicn on average is not natural.

  • Parsons

     Twiggy was a turning point but the models of the 1980s were in fact more voluptuous in comparison, no wonder  the top models were so famous because both the men and women loved them. It was when Kate Moss and heroin chic filtered in that the standard changed but I think that was in the 1990s, when grunge and heroin went hand in hand and clearly went into the veins of a lot of models in the 1990s if not still.

  • Meme

    Being skinny is ok, and being chuppy and have some curves is also ok, just be healthy and dont over do it. Women come in all hights, weights , and body shapes, why can the modeling industry reflects that?????? why do models have to be a one specific size, and some of the models are naturally thin, and some are not, and go through a lot of pressure, to look RIGHT for the media and this is just wrong and uncalled for. I wish that media can promotes healthy bodies instead of thin or overweight. 

  • Snow BunnyInfidel

    why is everything CONTROVERSIAL?  Is it because they are holding each other? sheesh who cares.   I think they should do more of these spreads.

  • Snow BunnyInfidel

    yeah, teenagers.

  • Snow BunnyInfidel

    LOOK man, we don’t decide what is ‘normal’ or ‘average’ – what decides that is the fact of how the MAJORITY of people are built.   I know skinny families, and naturally skinny people.  But the fact is MOST people are not built like that and this industry creates poor self image and anorexia in young women.  YOU should understand that and not be so defensive.

  • Pdxpete58

    I like the models in this shoot both of them look fantastic!  It’s not about the sizes of the models it’s about whats on the inside, they both have a lot to offer

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  • Ayush

    Please for goodness sake get the idea out of your head that fat is attractive. Trust me when I say, and I am speaking for most of my guy friends out there, a skinny girl is far more attractive than someone who is obese or even what people call healthy. Of course we dont mean some anorexic feak who starves herself with her ribs showing nd all, but defn some1 who is naturally skinny. And no doubt we guys like a fuller set of knockers on a girl but, even if a girl is an ‘a’ cup, there are natural means by which we can get her to be a ‘b’ cup…. But for a girl who starts with a ‘d’ cup in her teens or even early twenties, where does she go and stop..???? Jesus Christ..!! We all know women have a tendency to put on weight with age…. Trust me ladies when I say, Skinny is way better than healthy/obese.

  • Ayush

    And honestly, if you are so hell bent on being overweight nd proud then please do so… no1 is stopping you. But please get the idea of flaunting it on a ramp in Milan or Paris out of your head. And just in case some of you pissed of rug munchers manage to pass some kinda law that allows you to do that even, then please….please for the love of God form like a heavy weight category or something… Cause no1 wants to see some overweight chick flaunt around her baby fat in a nice chic Chanel or a Versace dress…. Please warn us from before so we can switch channels or go outside for a cigaratte or somethin until the real models take the centre stage again. Any girl who wants to flaunt her body as a Model should and can never have a waist above 28 inches period. No matter how tall she is. And needless to say for some1 who is like 5ft 5″ or somethin, anythin beyond a 26 inch waist is just unacceptable. That is if you want to be a head turner. No harm is bein 200lbs even. Just dont try to defend yourself by saying that its Normal.

  • Ayush

    Please for the love of God, do not ask your daugter to be overweight. Cause she can start with being curvy and will then turn out to be obese within the blink of an eye. No1 is asking any1 to starve themselves, but believe me when I tell you, and this is from a guy’s perspective, that skinny is way way better than fat or even what you people tend to term ‘healthy’. Like this fat chick in the picture above. Gross. It is what any man would settle for IF he cant find some1 prettier.

  • Ayush

    Why Not..????? If she CAN maintain her weight why on earth would you say she is not supposed to be that way…???? Just cause she can and you cant??? Just cause she can and most cant…???? Just cause most people cant do something doesnt make them right. That is precisely the reason why only some are considered beautiful and you jinies unfortunately are Not.

  • Ayush

    It is not…!!!!! 160 pounds on a 5′ 8″ frame is defn acceptable but is not even not remotely close to being considered thin or anywhr near it for that matter. She can defn do wid loosing some weight. It ll only make her look prettier. Of course, that, is once a woman healthier than her is not judging the same.

  • Ayush_chatterjee9

    Oh please… Muscular girls are a niche. Only SOME find them to be attractive.. I ll stick my neck out and say liking a muscular girl is somewhat like a fetich. The ones who do, like em for who they are, and the ones who dont think they remind em of a man. Madonna now for instance wid her bulging bisceps nd triceps. I think she looks hideous….

  • Ayush

    and being fat and overweight is…????? healthy that is

  • http://twitter.com/TraktorPutra putra

    waw wawawawawawa i like …

  • Nalexan

    I would like to say that I am 5’8″ and weight 105 lbs.  I am not a model, I am an economist, and I eat more than most of my colleagues do in a day.  I have a fast metabolism and quite frankly I work incredibly hard to try and gain weight.  I find it incredibly hurtful that you say I am sickly and gross and un-natural.  I am completely natural and I think people like you need to consider all of the possibilities. 

  • Nalexan

    I understand that the problem is with the media making girls feel like they have to be skinny.  Everyone should be comfortable with what is healthy for them.  But, making comments about how disgusting the models look is mean to people who are naturally that size.  By the property of transitivity, these comment mean that anyone 5’8″ and 110 lbs is gross and disgusting, which is not true.  I used to make myself sick when I was in jr high school by stuffing as much food as possible into my stomach to try and gain weight, because kids at school would make fun of me and call me anorexic.  The message needs to be that everyone should should be healthy, which may be 5’8″ 110 lbs or it may be 5’8″ 140 lbs.  However, we should not be putting the message out there that being overweight is healthy, because it is not.

  • chichi

    who the hell are you to tell bigger ppl not to model, just because they are bigger doesnt mean they cant model. My sister is naturally chubby and she is gorgeous and has many man turning heads. So ridiculous how media and stupid ppl often open their mouth to stereotype against big or skinny ppl. Society needs to STOP with the whole “average” situation.
     

  • Melba

    Let the Chunky Monkey’s who want  to be a model–lay off the Krispy Kreme donuts and lose to a low normal weight—then go for the Runway.. Plus Models are so gross—if they have to pig out–get a job at the Donut shop.   Just as gross is the bone thin models. When Cindy Crawford came to fame she was a nice size–not anorexic or overweight.. Let the Average size girls like Cindy rule the Runway.. Ask me if I would buy a dress Rosie O’Donnel modeled?  No & Rosie is not pursuing a so called Plus Size modeling job.. The flattering look sells..Average!!!!

  • Jennie

    So you’re telling me my boyfriend and my local modeling career are lying to me. I’m 19 years old 5’10” and 191 lbs. so I must be morbidly obese and shouldn’t show my body? But I’m sure guys like you wouldn’t mind seeing my 36 DD’s anytime. Go to hell, bigots like you are the reason women my size starve themselves, I’m hella proud of my body and i love flaunting it. It doesn’t matter if your voluptuous, normal, curvy, or petite, what matters is feeling confident and healthy in your skin and wearing clothes that accentuate your body, not hide it. That’s what this article is about, women of all sizes should be  able to see and shop for fashionable clothing that fit and flatter. Not about whether skinny or chubby is more attractive.

  • Smartass82743

    You all are fucking idiots.
    WHY promote FAT models??? why make them look as an inspiration when being fat isnt good for the body?
    Being thin is better and plus,those fat rolls are gross.
    Do you want women to be FAT or THIN????
    THINK ABOUT IT

  • ELLs

    dDAAMNNNN SHE IS FUCKIN SEXYY

  • Chelsea R Perry

    How about we let people be how they feel happiest; forget the size, and help people because they’re people, and because we don’t want them to hurt.

    I like your size, and your, and yours, and mine, and yours. You’re beautiful because you’re different, not because of how big or little you are.

    And, I think we can all agree every woman is beautiful.

  • TheHostWithTheMost

    What, do you just pick like one random sentence from a given post and start ranting about it? We get it….you have a preference for skinny girls. Good for you. You, however, do NOT speak for even 0.01% of the male population out there, so stop making broad sweeping generalizations….it makes you sound ignorant, and you don’t have a shred of evidence to back up your statements. Ten of your friends who agree with you don’t count, because we tend to group with like minded people. Try asking ten random people their opinion on this matter and get back to us with the results….I think YOU may be the one who winds up being surprised at what you learn!

    The big picture point of ALL of this controversy is the fact that there isn’t an ideal, and designers like their models skinny because they make better clothes hangers that way. Nothing more, nothing less. You see those same clothes a month after a runway show on the latest Hollywood starlet, and, with a few exceptions, they most likely are not as skinny as the model seen wearing it. Designers CAN make clothes for all body types, they just choose one body type upon which to showcase them. 

    This world contains almost 4billion people, no two of which (with the exception of identical twins) are alike. To say that there is only one ideal body type is ludicrous. And who gets to decide what the ideal is? Everyone has their own preference as to what types of shapes they’re comfortable with. What may appeal to one person may repulse another. It is wrong to pick on anyone for something they may or may not be able to control. If they can control it and it’s severely overweight or underweight, I guarantee you that they are suffering more inside than you could possibly make them with your hurtful, nasty words. And if they can’t help it, and they have some condition or even genetically are not able to gain or lose weight, what does that say about you as a person that you need to bring someone else down and hurt their feelings to make YOU feel better about yourself??? 

    No one should make fun of anyone, ever. You don’t know them, you haven’t walked in their shoes or lived their life. Judging others will always come back on you, so for all you judgmental f***ers out there, enjoy your karma later. I, for one, try to see people for the frail, beautiful beings we are, and to get to know who someone is BENEATH the shallow layer of beauty (or not) on the outside before I make a judgment about them. We are all here, just trying to get by in this world and be happy….why does happiness for some people have to involve bringing others down or making others feel like their not worthy? However attractive or better you think you are than everyone else, I GUARANTEE you that there is someone out there who doesn’t like you or thinks your ugly, or unattractive, or stupid or whatever. You can spend your life worrying about what other people think and wind up either morbidly obese or anorexic, or you can just choose to turn all that BS noise off and live life to its fullest. I choose the latter!! 

  • Msartain

    Well said!  I couldn’t agree more!  Unfortunately for us sane people, the internet tends to bring out the cowards of the World who use it as their place to feel all big and bad.  Well, let me tell you something, if the internet and posting ridiculous statements are where you get your kicks, then I feel sorry for you.  You have a pitiful life and are probably lonely and only wish you could get a woman as beautiful as those you are so ridiculously criticizing.

  • SOOnotfat

    so after reading the article and the comments, i still dont understand why a size 6-7 is OVERWEIGHT!?!? thanks a lot, now i feel like an obese cow and i need to cut my food intake in half to lose 7-8 lbs. im 5’3″ and 136. ARE YOU SAYING THAT I AM FAT??? just because you have a kid that is 5’10″ and 110 lbs? screw you if you think im overweight. i dont feel the need to have every friggin bone in my body showing and I LIKE having a round booty, curvy hips, and athletic thighs. im not perfect but i dont appreciate being considered fat and it is ABOUT DAMN TIME someone says, hey, you are just fine. now if i were 5’3″ and 190 lbs, feel free to call me a fatass.

  • SOOnotfat

    so after reading the article and the comments, i still dont understand why a size 6-7 is OVERWEIGHT!?!? thanks a lot, now i feel like an obese cow and i need to cut my food intake in half to lose 7-8 lbs. im 5’3″ and 136. ARE YOU SAYING THAT I AM FAT??? just because you have a kid that is 5’10″ and 110 lbs? screw you if you think im overweight. i dont feel the need to have every friggin bone in my body showing and I LIKE having a round booty, curvy hips, and athletic thighs. im not perfect but i dont appreciate being considered fat and it is ABOUT DAMN TIME someone says, hey, you are just fine. now if i were 5’3″ and 190 lbs, feel free to call me a fatass.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jefgarner Jef Garner

    Anorexia nervosa  is a disease just like alcoholism is a disease, what constitutes a disease anymore is just plain ridiculous, just because you want to be a 5’8″ perfect scale replica of a beach blonde barbie doesn’t mean you have a disease, however true anorexia, or unexplained loss of appetite IS a disease and you cant tell me every 90lb twig in platforms on a runway just so happens to have it.  
    Three things contribute to the so called “drastic climb” in obesity. 

    1.The “obesity epidemic” is just a series of over-inflated studies that actually legitimately tracks the number of overweight individuals as apposed to the way those studies were conducted over the passed 50 years, before people went to the doctor every time they stubbed their toes.

    2. The threshold of what is considered overweight is dropping, I’ve weighed around about the same since i was in high school, well in high school i wasn’t overweight, but after my last mandatory physical from my employer, i was told i was 40 lbs overweight, this means the magic number has evidently changed somewhere down the line, I’m sorry doc, but i won’t be weighing 160 anytime again soon.

    3. Massive bombardment of Ads with women barely large enough to fit their organs in their abdominal cavities causes normal sized women to fall into depression or self-ridicule. 

    Anorexia nervosa followed by purging is one of the most unhealthy things that you can do to yourself, not mentioning the loss of nutrients and the erosion of the inside of your mouth and the protective layer of enamel over your teeth… Seriously who wants to be with some chick that spent the better half of the day vomiting. Fat is there for a reason, its your body storing energy for a later use, and yes, there are an increasing amount of obese people in the united states and in the world, however our standard of “healthy” might as well be as stable as the little white ball from Pong. Yes, there are naturally skinny people in the world, but this isn’t the argument, the argument is that models sizes should vary and reflect the different shapes and sizes of all the women in the world. Everyone is beautiful to someone, that’s all you need to remember.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jefgarner Jef Garner

    you dont even know whats inside, besides the fact that its pink

  • Dmills10

    It saddens me to see these comments. Women bashing women. THis is the problem. Sisterhood, love of all women. Beautiful , bountiful, blissful women! Powerful….they can give life people! No doubt that studies upon studies that the increase in messed up eating habits for many many girls! Skinny, not skinny….you are all beauty! The point the add is making is that to starve yourself of the love of yourself is not a way to live life, If you are skinny and you eat you can tell because you still have that GLOW……..however if your nails are brittle, hair falling out, have not eaten for days, smoking to curb your hunger….this is suicide……..PLEASE for the love of sisterhood love alll women and pray for those who do not give themselves enough love.

  • Becci Miller
  • Noneya

    Looks like a mother and daughter!

  • SometimesIEatPoop

    Ew

  • Me

    Gross!!!!  She has back fat!  The problem is that the average woman is FAT!  We don’t need to encourage that; it’s everywhere already.  Just yuck.

  • Me

    No one is “naturally” 16-18.  Go to Europe and you won’t see that at all.  You are that size because of how much you eat, period.

  • Me

    It’s not your metabolism, it is how much you eat and how little you exercise.  Period.

  • Me

    That’s the problem with these people Pee Bee.  They eat themselves into obesity and then anyone who isn’t grotesquely overweight is somehow  a “famine victim”.  This is why so many people in the US are morbidly obese.  They have made it “ok” to be unhealthily overweight and they bully anyone who isn’t because it makes them feel bad. 

  • Me

    5’2″ and 157 is NOT healthy, and you are deluding yourself if you think you are somehow “different”. Pay attention to your calorie count and how many calories you are really burning with your “workouts”.  It IS possible to eat too much “healthy” food, and if you aren’t working up a sweat, you might as well not be working out at all.

  • Me

    Do your research.  The average weight has increased considerably since the seventies.  And no, it isn’t that models are unnaturally skinny.  It is that people see FAT as normal now.  Go spend a week in France and you will find that the “normal” girls there are model skinny.  Fat just isn’t attractive.  THAT is why the models are all thin, and yes, in contrast to the heinous morbid obesity that runs rampant in the US, they look almost shockingly thin.  It isn’t the models we should be looking at.  It is what we consider “normal”.

  • Me

    It only seems “unnatural” to you to be thin because you are fat.  Fat is what is not healthy ever.  In fact, “fat” is NEVER normal.  So when you see it, you know that someone made themselves that way.  You are responsible for your own obesity.  Stop trying to deflect by calling it “normal” and denigrating those who have self control.

  • Me

    Average height for a woman is around 5’4″, so yes, 160 is definitely overweight.

  • Me

    If pressure was being put on girls to be thin, you’d think you’d see more skinny girls.  Instead, obesity is increasing, even amongst children.  In reality, it is all of this fat acceptance that is causing the problem.  Fat is not healthy and IS an indicator that you aren’t taking care of yourself.  THAT should be a much bigger issue than the few poor girls who are anorexic.

  • guest

    it saddens me to read comments containing such ignorance and hate. Thank goodness there are still people out there with something positive to say! Looking out for your own health and educating your children is one thing, but trying to play god and preach to everyone else what is “acceptable” and what is not seems a bit ridiculous.  No one is asking anyone to be a size they don’t want to be, so if you have a problem with the way someone else looks, then look away. Yes there are issues in Western society with eating disorders, and poor body image on both ends of the spectrum, so instead of everyone biting each other’s heads off to try to determine what is “right” and what is “normal”, why don’t we shift the focus on what we are actually looking at. Looks are not everything, and they surely do not last.  Sending messages to young people that looks and size are the #1 indicator of health and likability is a HUGE part of the problem.  The focus needs to shift to WHO you are as a person, not what size you are.  A little respect for our own bodies, and for other human beings will go a long way. 

  • Guest

    @ed91d74a7a51faa1d9e6c0782014a01a:disqus you disgust me. The woman in the picture above is not ‘fat’ or ‘gross’. Clearly she’s overweight but that doesn’t mean she’s unhealthy necessarily or that she’s not beautiful. It’s people like you that are what’s wrong with the world. 

  • Metalevamaiden

    The models looked really pretty though-both of them. Even if one is a bit ‘tubbier’ than the other, I think both of them are “rocking their bods”. Coming from a 174 pound, 5’4 individual. I learned to love myself for my own curves just anyone should. 

  • Kirk

    You are dumb as shit. What the hell is a “motabaliziam”? 

  • 555

    And no one is naturally that rude. They were just never taught manners. Period.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UMVZIFT7OUD2ZDXHYB7L7UPT64 Ronnie

    yeah models are skinny but lets look at hollywood too.big prime example would be angalina jolie. i mean look at her everyone wants too call her the best looking superstar but all i can see is bones. i mean really come on girl pick up a hamberger eat it then dont throw it right back up hello.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UMVZIFT7OUD2ZDXHYB7L7UPT64 Ronnie

    i dont think you need too be skinny too be beautiful but you shouldnt let yourself get way out there, just because it is unhealthy. At the same time though it is unhealthy to be pure bones too lets start promoting health not beauty. Besides hasn’t everyone heard beauty is in the eye of the beholder not hollywood and models.

  • Spazcat1958

    I think both models are pretty – the ‘plus’ size woman has a couple rolls but she isn’t immensely obese.  There is a difference between being a ‘healthy’ 5’7″ weighing 110 and a sickly 5′ 7″ with ribs or collarbones or pelvic bones sticking out or showing, or cheeks sunken in. I agree that models in media should be a variety of shapes – some shorter or taller, some curvy-er with even some tummy or extra booty.  

  • Sukkar73

    The average woman is larger today. But the average model truly is MUCH thinner (and more likely to be a young teen) than 30 years ago. Otherwise I mostly agree with your post. They should include all statistics in a statement. Journalistic license I guess.  

  • a-ok

    I don’t want my daughter to feel that she needs to starve herself, I’ve known too many girls who were anorexic or bulimic through my work, and some have been on death’s door.  What I want is for people to realize that it is rude to judge other people’s weight, it is rude to tell people what you think about their weight, and it is frankly none of their business. Every person has to live with their own body, and for some of us that is punishment enough without adding the prejudice and judgement of others on top of that. Even if you never say a word, people can tell by your eyes if you are judging them and that is flat-out wrong. You cannot know the struggles another person has in their life. If people listed their struggles, changing the shape of their body may fall very low on that list, and adding to someone else’s stress by judging them too heavy or too thin will not help. 

  • Sukkar73

    Another problem is women who can’t fit the clothes spend BILLIONS every year on the accessories. Shoes, $1,000 bags, luggage, cell phone covers, bracelets, hair adornments and countless other items. It is the sale of these type items that truly drive the industry and account for a much higher earning percentage than the clothes. And you are correct, a good designer could design for anyone.

  • Zookate76

    Let’s not make this about how much WE weigh – some posters are on the skinny side, some are not – so what?!  In my opinion, you should stop being defensive about your own weight and just be comfortable in your own skin… SKINNY, FAT, and everything in between.
    And the point of the protests against the fashion (and entertainment) industry(s) is that, with the constant bombardment of very skinny models/actors, it’s hard for some people who are NOT naturally skinny to feel beautiful.  If you ARE naturally skinny, and you’re comfortable about it, that’s great.  However, if you are NOT naturally skinny, you shouldn’t be convinced into feeling uncomfortable about your body shape because it’s not like 99% of those bodies you see publicized, and that’s the issue.

  • loveyourself

    I am a female of average weight who works out 4 days a week to stay fit after having 4 children and reaching my mid-thirties.  I believe that as long as you are confortable in your own skin you are beautiful and as long as you believe yourself to be sexy then you are, no matter what anyone else or any magazine article says about you.  With that being said; I had a friend who was more like a sister to me than a friend.  She was a beauty queen and was “naturally” thin like most of the slender people’s comments I’ve read on here.  She used the same arguements as many on here have: I have a high metabolism….It’s just natural…my entire family is thin…and all these things were true, however her beaututiful 5’7″ 105 foot body is now burried in her family plot because what she thought was natural was not. It was a symptom of a disorder that eventually cost her her life.  SO like I said if you are slim and feel good about yourself then GREAT….If you are average and feel good about yourself then,,,GREAT…if you are heavier and feel good about yourself then GREAT.  My point is no matter what your size be certain that you ar HEALTHY and HAPPY and wish the same for everyone else.  There really is no need for all the ugy comments and name calling that is being thrown around here.  Let’s all act like grown-ups and give our nations children positive role models. regardless of size.

  • Guest

    I would trade bodies with any of these plus size women! They are beautiful.

  • kittylit

    Maybe you should go out for a cigarette now. In fact maybe you should smoke LOTS of cigarettes.

  • nice

    I like petite girls….

    They are so cute!!!

  • http://twitter.com/MrGravitas Larry Malbrue

    Neither one of them have ANY ASS AT ALL….. sad

  • Urokop

    There’s the caption that models are 23% skinnier than the average woman now and only 8% 20 years ago.  The obvious reason is because we’re all 15 % fatter than we were 20 years ago, skinniness of the models notwithstanding.

  • Ct Pro

    I’ve got an Idea.

    Lets all just calm the hell down and remember we’re talking about how not-fat you want your women.

    As long as you aren’t fat you’re fine.

  • 6453lover tacosox

    People! Don’t keep posting comments on how ugly or gross you think they are or how you are “model size” and eat alot with just a good metabolizm.

    They shood have models that aren’t “plus-size” or “super-skinny”. I think that there should be models that are about average size. Then girls will not get super eating disorders and starving themselves. They will see the “normal” and try to follow that instead of trying to be skinny.

  • bexfenn

    Im pretty sure you are all missing the point!!

    Have you read the actually statistics written on this campeign?
     
    It is not a personal dig at anyone…. it is a statistically backed up statement to which suggests we are who we are, but the natural state and shape that a healthy women should be, is slowly being pressurised and twisted into something unatural and unrealistic in MOST areas of media.

    Women are not all supose to be a size 8, some are made larger, with larger hips, ribs, smaller legs, longer legs…. but what we are only exposed to and thus being told is the ‘norm’ IS this size zero image.

    We are who we are. There is not any one mould that we are all made. So why are we being pressurised by media and fashion? The suggestable minds of the youth today who are not growing to this mould, with a six pack and legs that dont have that little bit that touches…… These are who matters. And this is what this campeign is for…. NOT all of you taking personal offense or being rude to each other…..

    We are what we are….

    It is not to shout out ‘OBESITY IS BEAUTIFUL’ ‘BE OBESE’ ‘SKINNY IS (as some on here has said) HYDEOUS’

    I do not accept those who sit around and eat pies all day, do not keep active or make an effort to help themselves, who then slate those of you who walk around very busy eating fruit and healthy diets etc. But those of us who make soooo much effort to keep OURSELVES happier, and keep toned etc deserve a little help to feel ‘normal’ too! Why cant I be shown a poster of a fit and healthy size 14 to help me see what will suit me and not look daft because it was designed for a size0???

    I am 5”8 and 11:2st. NOT a ‘perfect’ size by usual standards of todays world… Im toned but curvey. size 12. I personally, as a national average size, am glad to see this message being sent out because there is a difference between a natural beauty as tall as can be and slender…. and those seen on the catwalk with ribs showing and arms and legs as frail as that of a 90 year old probably living off a smoke and Diet coke per day…. its just not a good message. (I no not ALL but ALOT of models)

    Why cant there be diversity within fashion I think is the message also encorporated.

     I’m a fashion student, and conscious of what i wear, but is there enough brands promoting all around sizing…. All I see is size 6-8 on the walls of newlook, topshop ETC.

    Personally i do not think ANYONE would turn down Holly Willouby in bed? and yet she is a HEALTHY size 12-14…… why is this not acceptable?? IM sure she is!!! 

    STOP turning on each other and start to THINK about what the actual issue is. HEALTH not shape and the ‘PERFECT’ form at the risk of health.

    We want our children to be CONFIDENT, HEALTHY and HAPPY.
     
     

  • Britiful

    How do loosing weight make you any prettier??

  • Britastic

    Some folks are naturally bigger and some are natrually thinner. Take me and my best friend for instance. I am 5’6 and naturally on the bigger side[ between a 14 and 16]. I am very active, have a smaller waist and legs with much fuller hips, bottom, and bust and a wide back. Those are things I have to live with and no matter how much exercising I do that is not going to change. I think I am  very gorgeous.

    My best friend is however is 5’4 and around 110. She’s stunning and will eat you out of house and home! She’s equally as heathly as I am. She just has a high metabolism and her parents are both natrually thin as with me only my mom and my brother are. A lot of times weight and BMI has to do with genetics.

    I feel that the modeling community should showcase women in a full range of sizes to show that not everyone is made the same and girls should be happy to embrace themselves for who they are no matter if there a size 2 or 22. 

  • Kate

    Wow. You are so smart! I mean, what perfect grammar. And you totally didn’t misspell fetish. Anyone, or excuse me I should put it into your own vernacular, ANY1 would look at your posts and know what an amazing genius you are. Please, try and have an education. If you’re going to start an argument, be intelligent. Otherwise, be quiet.

  • Sheila

    Too short at 5’7″? I thought that whole height thing for models was a thing of the past. No love for us short people…

  • Catsie21

    I’m sorry but if a person can count your ribs and see you hip and pelvic bones that is not healthy.  To those women who are under weight you do realize that one of the causes of infertility that you don’t hear a lot about is caused by a woman’s weight.  

  • only1withabrain

    you stupid effing beeyoch. she said 5’8 at 160 was in the NORMAL range. NOT the the THIN range. GOD. Have you even looked at a bmi chart. F***** moron.

  • only1withabrain

    what she is saying is that “if you’re underweight then you shouldn’t be held as a standard for other women.” Just because you are healthy at X weight does not mean that someone else will be. Every woman should talk to their doctor to find out what is the healthiest safest weight range for their INDIVIDUAL body. You hear that all you crazy commentors??? STFU because your body weight means nothing to anyone other than yourself. And for the love of God learn to read and think before you type.

  • Rebecca

    Is nobody actually talking about the article? I think that both of the models have great figures. The “plus size” model isn’t exactly fat, or even plus sized though. She appears to be a healthy weight for her build. Which for a model is considered large.
    I’d have preferred to see the thinner model’s face rather than her just being used as a prop though!

  • guest

    you’ve gotten all ur concepts so screwed up!! First of all, most of the women all around the world are NOT spending all day burning calories in order to impress men, more specifically men like you! Being the size they want to and can be is totally acceptable and normal. Probably, if they came out with a fucking catalogue about how much men should weigh and measure… you could give in your expert comments! 

  • tigerlilly

    hi,
    i am quite astonished what people are thinking about *skinny* and *fat* women. In fact i am 158cm and about 92 pounds, i eat more than my boyfriend who is 194cm and 212 pounds, but almost totally foreign people come to me to discuss my eating habbits, ask my if i have an eating disorder and to be honest the female cousin of my boyfriend doesn´t like my just because i am petite and look sporty. i have never even considered a person´s weight if i get to know people, but it seems to me that usually the *healthier* part of the people have problems with people outside their weight class. 
    Sure, models are not healthy, they are skinny and not all of the models are naturall thin rather diet thin. but nowadays it is in to be a little bit chubby (hey, most of our population is overweight, so it´s comfortable to make chubby in) and skinnier people have to defend theirselves because of their weight and i can say that it is really hard to get clothes in my size. i am german and live in germany, almost every discounter clothing store has an overweight or big is beautiful department, but try to get something smaller than average,clerks just want to push you into the children´s department. oh, and the good brands often don´t have anything in xs or xs is just so big it would have fit an s/m 10 years earlier.
    so all i want to say is, it´s common to defend overweight people and condemn skinnier to being unhealthy, not eating enough, because it is easier for most of the people to sream * eat healthy and eat more* than * i know i am a little bit overweight, but …*.

  • Doshia1986

    Wow, your weight may be natural, but to say someone is overweight because they didn’t live up to the childhood you had is ugly. Nothing is wrong with being petite or a little meat on your bones. This is a prime example of why the world is the way it is. Just because someone makes a comment about their beliefs does NOT mean it is about you.

  • Sugallen

    The controversary for me is not the difference on sizes having been both sizes in my life the posing together inmately tales away from the actual message and does not attract the targeted audience.

  • eabgab

    Obviously this is a hot button topic among all of us! The point is that there are extremes on both ends, that is clear. When someone is unhealthy- either skinny or fat- then that is a problem. The point here is simply that there are tons of sizes in between those that are unhealthy that look good! Weather they are skinny or bigger, they are all beautiful and we should not just objectify one side of that spectrum and say that that is the only way you can be beautiful! It’s not true! You can be a size 14 or 16 and still be just as beautiful as that size 0, it shouldn’t be about our weight! We as women want to see other women just like us in magazines, and in movies, and on television! We want to see the leading lady be a size 14 and the heroine in our books be a size 12, we just don’t want to send a message to our children that the only people who are beautiful are tiny! That is the point of this article. Don’t get mad at each other, get mad at those Hollywood types that make these decisions and fail to properly represent everyone! We want to see both sides of the spectrum and everything in between! I want my daughter to know she is beautiful whether she is a size 6 or a size 12. Also our young boys need to feel that whomever they like, it’s ok for their girlfriends to be any size as well! Our boys are just as affected by these false figures as our girls! Don’t ever forget that! Love to all, know you are beautiful no-matter what size you are!

  • Linds

    Wow everyone seems to be enjoying themselves in here

  • Nei

    I am an oversize woman.  Not obese, but plus size.  I love the fact that these women are not afraid to be something other than pencil thin.  I have mentioned to my husband ( whose is 12 years younger than me) that i have thought about losing wieght.  he said that is fine, but not too much, because women are supposed to be soft and squishy!   

  • Vickey_long

    what is wrong with you people who r u to judge..its seems to me its like a type of bullying.  people,
    everyone has a different type of what is beautiful. everyone is different.  when you come down to it its all just an opinion

  • bee

    You are ridiculous calling someone an idiot. I’m 5’8 and naturally 115 pounds, no matter how much I eat I dont gain more than 5 or so pounds yearly and stay around 115 lbs and have for the past 4 years. I agree with Tiacee too, I come from a family of tall and thin and I don’t think ANYONE thinks we look un-natural, sickly or gross. Grow up jinies.

  • :)

    Wow you are the f****** stupidest person i have probably ever read a comment from. Skinny nasty see my ribs because i dont want to eat so the asshole at school will like me is the misconseption no brained people like you give innocent girls. There is NOTHING and shall i repeat NOTHING wrong with a liitle meat on the bones. By the way there ARE men out there who ARE actual gentlemen, unlike the highschool assholes you seem to need to impress, who like their girls not sickly skinny. My gentlemen is one of them. He doesnt prefer the overly skinny nasty type you seem to have warped your brain to like. Im 5 foot 1 and 132 pounds. I eat healthy and work out to stay healthy inside. Just because i cant loose weight to be a perfect 0 does not make me ugly. YOU ARE A DESGRACE TO SOCIETY, and let me also say i think you may have this idea that killing yourself to be skinny is hot because you are ugly and “sickly” skinny and can not get a guy so you starve your abnormal hideous self to make any attempt at having a man look your way. I hope that someday you look back on your life and are ashamed at what you are. BUT incase you are to fucking stupid to figure out what you are… let me tell you. YOU ARE A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT:)

  • Anonymous

    So what if they started showing all size 14 models? Would that be better? No, it wouldn’t, because there are plenty of size 0s who aren’t starving themselves or unhealthy at all.

    Also, I’m going to need some sources for your claim that plus sized models have healthier eating and exercise habits. Could you point me to a respectable scientific study by a reliable group?

    …Yeah, didn’t think you could.

  • Anonymous

    No, metabolism does have an effect. It slows down as you get older, which means that you have to be more careful with how much you eat and work out.

  • Anonymous

    I’m that thin, and I don’t starve myself. Way to be rude…

  • Anonymous

    “Embrace the uniqueness of your body…”

    Unless, of course, you happen to be thin. :/

  • Robyn

    Glad to see her beauty embraced! Women are beautiful in all sizes.

  • MsSocial

    Everyone ought to take a chill pill, step outside their internet cubicle, and grab some fresh air!

    STOP getting butt-hurt over the little things. It’s pretty obvious that no one likes their weight to be judged. But lets get real here for a moment and realize it’s NOT always about you! Instead it’s all about the message that the industry shoves down our throats. We allow for them to blind and guide us but we never question is it right and is it real. The arguments through these comments is absolutely appalling if I must say so because you’re missing the entire point, the message hidden between the lines. Stop hurling insults, and stop being obsessed about yourselves because it is not always about you, the individual. Attempting to boost your ego by spreading hate through a machine is not only a reflection of where you stand with your own self but where you stand, and what you allow from the industry allowing for them to say that anorexia, bulimia are a-okay. That’s like saying obesity is okay but the truth is, it’s not. None of those are or should be an a-okay option but we allow it because someone else said it’s okay not because it’s what is right for our selves, individually. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder whether or not you like it is your preference but I stand behind being healthy over being one extreme or another. If you’re not concerned with being healthy you will pay for it years later. Anorexia, Bulimia and Obesity to name a few of the major health issues are NOT healthy options. If anything they are a mental illness, and it all stems from what we’re force fed that x amount is not enough when it clearly is but society as a whole bullies us into believing it’s not. Soon enough, if you allow for it Barbie herself will be fat or worse obese in eyes of our world. 

    Before anyone gets on their high-horse I want to point out that I have been on both sides of the spectrum personally, and neither of them are enjoyable as they are both destructive in one way or another to your health all around. IF someone has a problem with where I stand now that is entirely their burden to bare, and their fear to over come not mine. I’d rather be where I am today (healthy all the way) than to be what the media or some one else envisions I should be.

    So please just stop getting hell bent over petty things, and start seeing what is being said between the lines. Healthy isn’t just a state of mind it is a way of life. If you don’t care to live a healthy lifestyle, it is your choice but please do not let the media or people around you influence you to do something that could ultimately cost you your very life!

  • neu

    Who made you the man’s spoke-person? I know so many men in this world who like a curvy woman. Who are you to say what is normal? You have such a narrow definition of what is normal… I’m happily engaged, feel good about myself and am extremely healthy and yes, I’m heavy, much more heavy than your “standards” – and my fiance is heavy too. It’s just how we are right now, that may change, but to call us unhealthy or unattractive is extremely ignorant and rude.
    So you don’t like overweight people – and that’s your choice. Just don’t tell other people it’s wrong, please.  

  • Savannah

    I’m 5’9 and weigh 120 and I eat plenty. I’m just active and naturally built this way, and I’m never questioned! Don’t go critiquing thin people just because u think it’s unnatural, because it’s totally normal. My BMI says I’m at a healthy weight too!

  • you

    Have you ever worked out a day in your life? Sweat production is not a reliable reflection of effort, calorie burn, or whatever else you’re claiming. Furthermore, height and weight alone are not enough to understand a person’s body composition. Muscle weighs more than fat and based on BMI charts, most body builders are obese. I’m 5’6″ and I weigh 142 lbs. That’s because I’m a competitive athlete and have high muscle density. You may say my weight is unhealthy for my height, but I guarantee I could outrun, outswim, or outperform the average “skinny” person in any exercise activity you choose. That’s not unhealthy.

  • you

    Thank you! Can we talk about the fact that neither of these girls looks to be in perfect health. Everyone is blasting the heavier model for being “too lazy” to exercise but not mentioning the fact that the skinny girl looks like she’s never lifted anything heavier than a cigarette in her life. This woman has zero muscle in her spindly little arms. Are you trying to tell me she exercises… ever? Doubtful. I’m a competitive athlete and by BMI charts I’m obese. I’m so sick of people claiming that skinny and healthy are synonymous. I’ve known plenty of skinny girls who couldn’t run a quarter mile if a hungry bear was chasing them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WGD7VPCLIHLF26YVY3Z6A7PJNM Boo

    I think you need to do a little research. Why is it that being overweight is the only “unhealthy” weight. It’s possible to be underweight. Being 5’9″ and 110 pounds is NOT healthy whether you’re “naturally” that way or not just like being 5’9″ and 200 pounds isnt healthy whether you’re naturally that way or not. Everyone assumes skinny=healthy but that’s not the case. You don’t have to be skinny to be healthy, you can have a little chub on you and still be at an acceptable weight for your height.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WGD7VPCLIHLF26YVY3Z6A7PJNM Boo

    And anyone who isn’t “model skinny” is considered overweight and unhealthy. It goes both ways. I’m not saying the U.S. doesn’t have a problem with obesity but it is possible to have “chub” and be at a healthy weight for your height. It’s also possible to be underweight but I don’t see anyone mentioning that. It’s only unhealthy if you’re fat apparently.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WGD7VPCLIHLF26YVY3Z6A7PJNM Boo

    And there are plenty of plus size models who don’t stuff themselves and aren’t unhealthy at all. I said it before and I’ll say it again, it goes both ways. There’s a range from healthy skinny to healthy “chubby” and there’s also unhealthy underweight and unhealthy overweight.

  • Mandy

     I’m 5’8″ and 1/2 and I weigh just over 110 lbs. I eat more than any of my friends who are all athletic and in extremely good shape and much shorter than me, yet I am skinnier. I have a fast metabolism and I get a lot of hate for being so skinny when I can’t help it. It is a shame that girls who have extra body weight are being called fat, but it’s just as bad to be called anorexic and not be able to do anything. I have tried everything, including many diets and exercises a nutritionist has given me and nothing has worked because my body is just where it will be. The next time you insult someone on being too skinny think about how badly it makes them feel, just as bad as calling someone fat, and I would much prefer to be in the shape I am where I can run a marathon than to be in the shape of getting winded at a quick walk up a hill. PS, my bmi is not in the “underweight” zone.

  • Georgia

    Ick. I think if you put makeup on anyone it will make them pretty. we all know that. I don’t need to see her rolls of fat.

  • Renae

    Really?  You eat more than your boyfriend who weighs 212 pounds?  R-i-i-i-ght. Your “poor me” sounds a little hollow, tigerlilly.  Especially since it was necessary to point out that your boyfriend’s cousin is jealous of you…

  • Stephmac2403

    I totally agree! Im a plus size woman (size 16) and my BFF is a petite 5’2 maybe 115lbs and shes absolutely beautiful and healthy looking. I’m sooooo glad that plus size models are more visible today, but I always wonder, “how does a thin girl feel?”. Everyone is different and beautiful in their own way. But one thing that isnt beautiful, that I think we can all agree on is: ANOREXIA or BULLEMIA.

  • Neekola27

    I like that the plus model is embracing the ….. Trying to be nice here…. Uh, okay I’m just gonna say skinny model.. It’s almost like she’s trying to share her acceptance and love of herself with her.. Very liberating, love these photos

  • Asharpladyw3kids

    YOU ARE INCREDIBLY RUDE! It is a good thing that I can only read your ignorance on screen and can’t see you in person. If I did, I would probably laugh in your face, then slap the @!#% out of you! True, severely obese women, AND MEN, aren’t attractive to look at. However, the “plus size” model pictured above IS beautiful and sexy.  How many guys wouldn’t be turned on by her being able to bend all the way over like that? You are lying if you so you aren’t.  That takes tone and flexibility. So what if her ribs aren’t showing or she doesn’t have a 28″ waist? I am POSITIVE you don’t have a washboard stomach or a 6 pack. You probably have a 12 pack or a keg going on in them abs and you think you have a right critizing women? HYPOCRITE!

  • Asharpladyw3kids

    Oh not you AGAIN! Really? 160lbs. on a 5’8″ frame isn’t remotely skinny? Are you kidding? Before I was put on medicine, I was that weight and you could see my pelvic bones, though I wore a size 9-10! Just do everyone a favor, stop commenting and spreading your ignorance all over the netl.

  • Asharpladyw3kids

    Good for you! An intelligent, well thought out reply. About time! I agree with you 100% and would like to hope that more people will see your logic and sensibility after reading your post. I am going to stop reading further posts now so as not to get frustrated all over again. Thank you for leaving me with the knowledge that someone has common sense and manners, let alone good grammar and speech!

  • regular girl

    Another stupid and pointless discussion. People, c’mon, this is not the problem whether somebody is skinny and healthy or has more body fat but still healthy. THE PROBLEM IS ABOUT REDEFINING BEAUTY! Those designers, fashion houses are trying to convince us that it doesn’t matter what kind of genetic background or metabolizm you have, only if you’re skinny you can be beautiful. Many of those models don’t eat and exercise all the time – they are NOT skinny naturally and they are definitely NOT healthy or happy with their bodies! That is the problem. Everybody can be beautiful if he or she is healthy and takes good care about her/his body. A skinny woman can be beautiful, a bigger woman also. But we shouldn’t let them tell us that something is wrong with our bodies and go into diets only because some tw…ts believe eating is not good for your frame. C’mon, this is sick! I’m 28 years old, 5’7” and 120, I used to weight under 100 when I was younger although I ate only junk food, I also weighted almost 140 although I ate healthy food. Never been on any diet, try to stay healthy and eat healthy. Someone may call me fat, others will call me skinny, I’m happy with my body and if some company make clothes that don’t fit me because they are made for girls a lot skinnier, than tuff luck, I’m not gonna buy them.

  • Fiorina

    Good for them. Since the average size for women is a size 14, I personally think designers should display their collections on models that roughly wear this size, or overall have a curvier body shape. It seems like it would make most sense- they would be appealing to a greater population if they did so. When only 12% of the American females wear a size 0, why do almost all ads use that size of women for models? To some, skinny and trim is more attractive, but this is merely a matter of opinion. Taking a  sales standpoint, it is more logical for the portrayal of a good to be suited towards the population most willing to buy it. The fashion industry has decided that upholding a certain image and self-expression is most important, however. 

  • http://twitter.com/rivlyb Rivly Breus

    I’m 180 lbs. 5’4 and I consider myself average size. Im fabulous. 

  • http://scholarshipsngrants.com/scholarships-for-hispanics/ Hulda Haag

    the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.

  • http://www.web93.es/ Adria Oliva

    these stats can’t totally be taken for face value.

  • Westnileraven

    The skinny one is too skinny.  Look at her arm! There is no muscle there.
    The plus model is kind of…droopy.  She looks like she just lost 20 pounds far too quickly.  To be frank, she doesn’t have any muscle either.  And neither have been airbrushed… I see ass pimples on both.  This is just shock journalism.  Anyway, muscle is important, and somebody always gets hurt when women’s bodies are talked about as if they could be ‘optimized’.  Its called objectification, and even some of the butthurt women here are doing it.   It feels a lot sicker when dudes like Ayush are telling us how to be worthy of his attraction.  AS IF, child.  Ladies, join me in the weight room, on the track, on the dance floor.  Make your body strong, and you will glow with beauty and confidence whether you are naturally thick or thin.

  • Westnileraven

    Models have gotten significantly thinner.  Cindy Crawford vs Giselle.  its quite clear.

  • Meredith Campbell

     I am a similar build to “apple blossom” I have had my body fat tested and I am in the healthy rage. health blood pressure and cholesterol I just have a boatload of muscle my grandmother is similar she is 86 and still walks and plays golf. This one size fits all approach is not right people come in different shapes. I think that is why this ad campaign is refreshing we want to see the diversity  that makes women beautiful.

  • Bill

    Eh the big one would look good if she lost a few pounds…

  • MzMommy

    Mandy you make a great point everyone has feelings and being judged for being thick or thin is wrong and hurtful.  Great point!  :)

  • MzMommy

    I agree with your post!  Very well written but…..I think you are giving way to much credit to him.  Because with his horrible, small minded attitude I find it hard to see him have 10 friends!  :o)

  • Lizzy

    I agree.  Both need to tone up their bodies. 

  • Laura

    I was under the assumption that there are lots of options for plus sized women now.  I see specialty stores for them, and most stores also have plus sizes.  What’s the issue?  There are an entire range of sizes now.  When I was younger, there was nothing for the small sizes!  I had to sew my clothes or buy them in the little girl’s department.  

  • Kacey Galvez

    Today she weighs 23% less.” And also: “Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.

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  • Lucienne Stallworth

    Today she weighs 23% less.” And also: “Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.

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  • Myrtice Close

    Of course, these stats can’t totally be taken for face value.

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  • Kenyatta Vickery

    “Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.”

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  • Rosaria Cousins

    I eat a ton, it’s just relatively healthy food and I’m active. Skinny can be beautiful too!

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  • Yeah.I.Said.It

    There really isn’t a norm to how your body is supposed to look like, it a matter of how healthy you are! Of course a skinny boobless butt less bony chick is equally unattractive as a size 24 3 back rolls giggly thigh plus woman. Its a matter of how healthy our body is and how we are promoting and viewing health in our society! A size 2 is equally as exaggerated as a 20! I’m not hassling people who naturally are like that, but those of use who over eat and under exercise are equally as unhealthy and dumb as those who under eat and overexert themselves. Come on people let’s be realistic being fat ain’t the shit and should never be accepted as something that’ll take care of itself, but someone should never be degraded for it. And maybe some girls who are 5’8 and are 100 lbs are normal, but puhhhhhleaaze those of you who know you’re not stop defending this exaggerated idea that the less you have the better. Girl if you want your body to look like a twelve year old for the rest of your life pop some pig tails on it! Both ideas are ridiculous. 

  • JasonM

    hello stupid skinny people, the issue here is TOO SKINNY MODELS! they ARE TOO SKINNY!!! they STARVE themselves, take drugs and all that shit just to keep them in the business! If you are NATURALLY SKINNY and HEALTHY, just shut the fuck up and be happy! why are you so angry???? are you a fucking model? what, you think only skinny people are active??? tell that to my policemen uncle, who’s very big but can run faster than any SKINNY druggies and catch them. stupid fucks!

  • Highlandcastle

    Until everyone starts accepting everyone else for who they are, and not how they look, we will continue to have remarks made like the ones I have read here. It is really sad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=197401142 Elsa Camelia Bueno

    All women are beautiful whether they are thick,skinny,fat, whatever… Ayush..or whatever your name is..You may prefer a skinny woman..but not all men do. And men that are with heavier women, are with them becuase they love them and prefer a woman with meat on their bones, such as my bf, who is very physically fit and didn’t just “settle’. I am 5’6 and 195 pounds, but my recommended body weight is 160. I do not look like I weigh 195, but I am. I am happy in my skin, but technically I am overweight. I am active and have lost 25 pounds recently by being more careful about what I eat, but I do not deprive myself either. I am happy where i am at. I embrace my curves. And just so you know, for someone that you think would be unhealthy, I’m not. Diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure,etc runs in my family and I have none of the above, even being overweight. I know this because I recently got a physical. As a matter of fact, my LDL is much lower than most people for my age bracket, blood pressure is always great, EKG came back fine too, so that means no heart disease…I’m 25.My grandmother was not overweight but had diabetes type 2 I believe…because she developed gesational diabetes in her last pregnancy. Someone who is anorexic or bulimic can have more problems with their health versus someone who is overweight, such as myself. You disgust me with your idiotic comments about the woman above being ugly, because she is overweight and women in general being ugly because they are overweight. This is why young girls have issues with their body images at younger and younger ages.I have friends that are bigger than me and more gorgeous than any models you have ever seen and have the personality to match. And what you are telling me is that if you ever have a wife or currently have one..she has your child and gains some baby weight that won’t come off, she is ugly? You and others have gotten off track on what this ad is trying to convey. It is trying to convey the pressures that society puts on woman to be thin and the effects it is causing in the modeling world and in everyday life among normal women. To the girls who were offended by being called ugly because you are skinnny, that is not true either. Anorexia and Bulimia is horibble, not you. Society needs to embrace women for who they are and stop trying to oppress women by having this ridiculous Beauty Myth. Everybody will always be different sizes. I am mixed with Mexican and African American and I am curvey and will never be a size 12 or below. I can tone and do as much cardio as I want, the hips are going nowhere. In the words of Sir MIX alot..u can do side bends or sit ups, but please don’t loose that butt.lol. Learn to appreciate all forms of beauty, both the women to me are beautiful, one does look more sickly, but she may not be anorexic. Maybe she has cancer, high metabolism or some  other disease that prevents her from gaining weight.

  • Sharen Headley

    In addition, the criteria for anorexia involves more than just a specific BMI

    http://www.tpsremovals.com/

  • Eugenie

    which she appears totally naked…and surrounded by captions with controversial statistics.

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  • youareamoron

    you spelt “horrible” wrong “doctor”

  • Jamie

    I’m 5’8 1/2″ and my weight averages between 115-117 pounds, and I am completely healthy. If I weighed what I supposedly should based on my height and age (20), I’d look like I was frickin’ pregnant! Though I am tall, I am small-boned, and my frame simply could not hold much more weight. Not that I am on any stupid diet, mind you; I eat like a horse. I just have a fast metabolism, and I know quite a few girls who are similar (including one guy friend who is nearly a foot taller than me and can’t weigh much more than I do).
    As for you being a doctor; well, you don’t sound like any doctor I know, and believe me, I’ve seen a few wretched ones. I mean, come on, man! If you can get through eight years of medical school, you should be able to spell “horrible” (horriable) and “skinny” (skiny) right, and you should be able to use the right “too” (to). I could spell better than that in fourth grade.

    Oh, and by the way? It’s “pre-pubescence,” not “pre-pubecence.”

  • JanniGogolak

    So far I have disagreed with you not because you’ve had an opinion but because you think you speak for all men. Most of the men I know prefer a woman with curves.
    But I do have to say however, that 160lbs on a 5’8″ woman is not too thin. Before everyone here berates me, let me explain why. I am 27 years old,  5’7.5″ and at my heaviest ever right now which is 123lbs. When you look at me, you do not see my ribs sticking out, you do not see my pelvis protruding and I have very lovely curves. I have a small waist, full hips, a very round posterior (33,25,39) and I don’t diet, don’t eat healthy (bad habit), don’t exercise often. My bff on the other hand is just a bit over 170, very full chested, curvy, thick and beautiful and if you see her you wouldn’t think to call her thin or skinny and she’s just over 10 lbs heavier than what you’ve described. Everyone wears their weight differently. @a472ca4cc509aec84c879a39d8741ccd:disqus u said u used to weigh 160lbs and u could see ur bones, doesn’t mean someone else with that weight is the same. 

    On that note, I have no problems with plus sized models, or thin models, as long as they are healthy. Maybe it’s because I wasn’t born or raised in America (the land where Body Image is EVERYTHING) I am in no way influenced by how these women look and try to make myself look that way. Maybe its because as a child my parents taught me how to be comfortable in my own skin. Maybe it’s because I’m from the Caribbean where we are cool and carefree… whatever the reason I think the real problem isn’t how models look, it’s that children aren’t being taught to love themselves

  • Janni Gogolak

    I like this ad in that it shows that curvy women can be beautiful and sexy too. I don’t agree with the statistics since, as rightly mentioned several times in these comments, the models of the 80s and the models of today are on two different standards. The comparisons they did up there are moot. 

    What I DO NOT like is that people like @jinies:disqus and @ed91d74a7a51faa1d9e6c0782014a01a:disqus are using this forum to degrade what they personally do not find attractive with words like “gross” “sickly” “unnatural”. To say that readers here should not be personalizing it because the article is about other models is ignorant, and I say this respectfully. The article is about society’s perception of beauty and how they use models to portray that. Society refers to everyone. It’s not about the models being thin, it’s about the models being thin to fit into this warped view of beauty. That model there is very beautiful. What makes her beautiful is not her full figure, not her face, not her skin – it’s the confidence and comfort she displays in herself. This is what society should be focusing on – making women feel like they don’t have to alter themselves to fit in, that they are beautiful no matter the size, shape or colour – as long as they are healthy.

    When I watch a model come down the runway, I want to see one my size so I know how the clothes will look on my body. I think everyone should have the opportunity to see what clothes would look on their body type – models should represent ALL women, not just one subset of them!

  • Guest

    just because 50% of women are size 14 or over doesn’t mean we should promote this, we are facing an obesity problem and yet it is always the thin models and celebs that get targeted for their unhealthy lifestyle, being overweight is just as damaging. If we are going to criticize underweight models let us criticize overweight models too. We shouldn’t be telling obese people to celebrate their weight we should be encouraging everyone to live a healthier lifestyle.

  • carib chick

    who cares …. steups… weight dont decide health … a doctor does that and btw … i am 5 9 i am 160…  call me fat call me healthy call me whatever … i can climb mountains and my ‘model’ friend cant climb a stair… so if i am fat well so be it

  • Janam Malik

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  • Donnasop

    I used to wear a 3 slack and 1 dress… I worked my butt off 7 days a week, was 5’2 and weighed 111… that was in 86… My size 6-7 dress’s DO NOT FIT the girls who tell me they are a size “4″.. I just shake my head…so, those 1′s and 3′s are now “00″‘s..because they would not even hit the meter now… 4′s today are more like 9′s & 10′s

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  • Lauren

    You have to take math classes no matter what you get your degree in. Stop knocking journalists. It’s petty.

  • Rini

    i don’t know why we can’t have models in between.
    and frankly no one gives a shit if you are tall and thin.  it’s what is being broadcasted as ‘the body’ to be.  read jesus christ.

  • http://www.siweb.es/ Vina Morley

    she weighs 23% less.” And also: “Most runway models meet the Body Mass Index physical criteria for Anorexia.
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  • Ann Neely

    I’m pretty sure that the real problem most people have with overweight/obese people is that they don’t like looking at them, and not because they’re concerned for their health.
    I’m glad I stopped caring if people saw me as attractive.

  • NarrowEscape

    Hey! This comment thread seems to focus a lot on judging women and their size but I think that the spread was really talking more about the narrow (pun intended) mindedness of Fashion Industry. Clothing stores don’t respond to the reality of community demographics.  So yes, that is related to this thread’s conversation about what is our cultural ideal, but I also think it is just poor marketing, and I want to know more about where people love to shop that has style and size diversity. 

  • Randyred

    wow, the plus size woman in those photos is HOT. but i am afraid the ‘normal’ model looks like a refugee from a death camp.  the shot of them embracing actually turned my stomach, not for the embrace, but the fact that her arm was totally bony. her hip bone jutting out just made me want to feed her.

  • Anonymous

    Slim ladies are lovely. But it’s my understanding that a five-nine girl who weighs 120 and models will be under pressure to ‘lose the weight’, these days.

  • pinkpanthergal88

    i truly feel sorry for you, because you are missing out on some really beautiful, wonderful women. i feel even sorrier for the women that you date, for the point of when they realize how superficial you are. one thing you need to remember is this, looks don’t last forever…not even yours. the plus size model in the layout is beautiful to me. as for you liking larger breasts, do you know what breasts are mostly made of? fat…yep, just what you hate! when i had to have my breasts removed due to breast cancer @ 35, i wore a 38-J. the one with cancer weighed 8 1/2 lbs, the other was 8 lbs. yes, i was plus-size, wearing an 18. i thank God that my husband of nearly 19 years has always told me that i am beautiful when i’ve been thin, heavy, breastless, bald & swollen from chemo, not able to give him more than 1 child because of having to have a complete hysterectomy due to the cancer moving to my uterus, can’t get out of the bed due to severe fibromyalgia flareups, etc. would you have stayed with your wife/girlfriend if she lost her breasts? a lot of men don’t. people with attitudes like yours & super-thin models have a huge effect on the self-esteem of our young people, especially our girls/young women. i’m just asking you to try to look at the inside of a person, instead of judging them by what’s on the outside.

  • pinkpanthergal88

    a lot of it depends on the person’s frame size…small, medium, or large. i’m large-boned & 5’9″. when i lost down to 127 lbs, my dr told me that i had to gain weight, because i was too skinny. to be honest, i did look anorexic, because almost all of my bones were sticking out. it looked like it was mostly skin over bones, with a little muscle. i didn’t even realize that i had gotten that small & looked that bad, as i very rarely look in mirrors. at any rate, he told me that i should be between 150 to 160, ideally at the upper end of that range. this was my bariatric surgeon who told me this. i lost from 237 down to 127. he said that he had never told any of his patients that they had to gain weight before. each person carries their weight differently. Bone/frame size is a big factor.

  • pinkpanthergal88

    amen, brother!

  • pinkpanthergal88

    it’s not always a matter of self control. i’m 42 & have never met an obese person that told me that they wanted to be obese & were happy to be so. sometimes there are contributing factors, such as medications, medical/health conditions, even genetics for some. there are some girls & women who are obese, because they were molested/raped. the weight gives them a feeling of protection, hoping that they won’t look attractive enough to be violated again. so it’s not always a matter of self control. not everyone has higher/faster metabolisms to help them stay naturally thin. let’s just don’t be so quick to judge. you never know what a person is living through.

  • kiki

    @ed91d74a7a51faa1d9e6c0782014a01a:disqus  , too many indian guys think ,talk and behave like you . Get over yourself you fugly mofo. 
    Much like you my ex also thought i was too thick and i wasnt pretty enough like they show in the magazines and my DD breasts didn’t resemble his porn collection (ironically he was a banerjee, not too far of a connection . no mr chatterjee?) . Know what happened to him? Dumped, after only a few weeks and he wound up on my door at midnight desperately apologising …Coming from a bengali background where women are naturally curvy (and i dont mean obese) you should be ashamed that you chose to shit all over the very roots your mother/father represents. & also taking a sneak peak at your comments, you are so strongly mislead to think all women should be a size 28 waist , tall and slender. However mr chatterjee ,I have ONE question to ask – Do YOU look anything like a CK, Versace or Chanel model? whats that… ? silence? frogs croaking in the background? hmm… yeahh… i didnt think so either. So how about you hypocritical shitheads (especially indians) keep your opinion hole closed cuz obviously it doesn’t differ much from the one you shit from. I have never come across a single regular indian guy who is even remotely attractive to some of the other nationalities whilst heaps of indian girls still are. So seriously, get lost , save the bullshit , roll it in a shape and shove it up ur tight ass :) so you can hurt all day long with that over inflated ego of yours where you actually think YOU  resemble the likes of hritick roshan, Ranbeer, ryan Reynolds , or dwayne Johnson to actually pull in commercial model-material .Im pretty sure Nobody cares for your dumb, ignorant, sexist, outdated opinions.

    kiki~

  • Guest

    i think ALL women of ALL sizes colours and shapes (disabled or not) should be given that chance beauty isnt subject to material perfection and anyone else who believes so much like @ed91d74a7a51faa1d9e6c0782014a01a:disqus  can go to hell :) If beauty was all about superficial materialism, nobody would fall in love and nobody would ever get married

  • Dog123

    They both look good even plus size and they both it must take a lot for them to take all their clothes off and be photographed

  • someone on the street

     im 5’8 and used to weigh 160 pounds and I was just right and I looked good

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  • justbeingme

    just reading through the comments i have to say that skinny people are very sensitive. The people that are saying that 5’9 girls at 110 lbs is gross but if you are naturally that way that’s good for you. i’m pretty sure they’re talking about girls who’s body frame needs to hold more weight to be healthy. using tall skinny girls have small shoulders and small hips but if you are skinny with broad shoulders and broad hips and are 110 lbs now that’s when i think that you are unhealthy. it’s just the same with heavier people. if you have small shoulders and small hips and you weigh over 170 lbs and are short then that is unhealthy. for me i am 5’7 and weigh around 165 lbs and my measurements are 39, 31,43 and i think that i’m at a  normal weight i wish i could lose a few pounds but i’m not obese i have close to a flat stomach and my hips are quite broad my shoulders not so much. hope this helps the skinny peoples confusion

  • Frck

    This would be more convincing if they hadn’t felt the need to also photoshop their plus-sized models.

  • Sexyfirepixie

    I think that everyone just needs to chill out. Some people should be skinny, their frames call for it, some people need to be bigger, their frames call for it. Some people can’t control it, whether it is being overly thin or over weight. There are a ton of issues that human (big or little battle) I myself am large, i’m 5’11 and I weigh 285 lbs. I do all that I can to maintain that weight having a hypo active thyroid as well as a thing called polycystic ovarian syndrome. It doesn’t mean I’m not active and that I’m lazy. I have a six year old daughter, I am constantly on the go wether it’s hikes in the desert or riding bikes all over, playing baseball or just racing around our yard with our dogs (2.5 acre yard). Then you have people with hyperactive thyroid who can be my height and only weigh 100 lbs. they can eat all day long and do nothing but sit on the couch or the computer. It’s not on how we look it’s what we teach the next generation that counts.
    Be proud to be human no matter what you look like. And try to teach the next generation to be healthy for themselves and to not be self-conscience about being “fat” or “skinny”.

  • Kaboogaus

    Look up models from the 20s. Heck, look at Coco Chanel

  • Kaboogaus

    and yes, models have always been thinner than the majority of women.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amber-Goodwin/663491792 Amber Goodwin

    Surely the answer is this. Everyone is beautiful in their own way. Tall, skinny, short, not skinny! The real problem I think is that a greater range of sizes need to be shown on the catwalk/fashion magazines etc. Smallest to biggest sizes you can get. That should solve self confidence issues perhaps? Also healthy lifestyles are important and the ideal weigh varies person to person. Surely your doctor is the best person to go if you are concerned about your own weight. :)

  • Amay Yang2

    Women are so hard on one another. If you can’t already notice from this blog…
    We should not be pointing fingers at each other on this topicc. Both women in the pictures are beautiful, it is the meaning behind the picture that people should really pay attention to. I personally can care less on what you look like, HOWEVER, if you are healthy that is all that matters. I have many friends who have a little cushion BUT are able to run long distance marathons better than those of my “thinner” friends. Yes, high matabolism does play a large role in your body weight but so does your health. If you are a healthy person, eat healthy, have some form of physical activity daily and you are confident, happy and LOVE your body, regardless to what size your jeans are then that is all that matters. People today need to stop pointing fingers at others and start pointing it at themselves. I am a larger petite woman and I work with female youth. I LOVE my body and how I look and always tell them that it doesn’t matter how you look, but if you are healthy, lern to love your body and the curves that GOD gave you. Do not let the MEDIA tell you what is beautiful, you must find out what YOU think is beautiful…

    Many females these days are so fixated on what the media has to say, and what is in and blah blah blah, always CONSTENTLY PICKING AT ALL THEIR FLAWS, but never have time to look in the mirror at themselves and tell themselves that they are beautiful.

    That is what we need to change; the mentality of how we see ourself every day and that is what will resignate with your youth today.

  • http://www.thebestreddress.com thebestreddress

    I think that people just like talking about which is better instead seeing the need for moderation is everything. No one cares if you’re naturally tall and skinny or short and skinny, to tall and pudgy or short and pudgy. The fact remains is that MODELS are skinnier than the average public and yes skinnier than they were 50 years ago. (They had breast 50 years ago) It’s not a healthy image to set. If you want to be thin, go ahead. If you want to be pudgy, go ahead, it’s not really about you, it’s about women as a whole.

  • P Lovin

    wow, you’re a total bitch aren’t you?

  • lshaw

     I like how you are the determiner of what is culturally “acceptable” as far as how a particular gender (women) should look in order to be of value in society. This is exactly the problem with media representation and the cultural bigotry that goes along with spewing hateful commentary on how “women” should look. I really don’t understand where you are coming from– It seems more like a power grab here– you are making up for something that is lacking in your life while also putting “women” in their respective “place”. There is a whole world out there of cultural taste and what is considered attractive (not just Western standards of thin= beautiful).

    And there are plenty of women out there who do not judge themselves based upon “male” pleasure or taste. You make vast generalizations.

    Women are more than the value of having a 26in waist or being “skinny.”

    How about judging people based on what they do for society? Being a good person? Working as a teacher?

    And why do you care so much about fatness? It’s a bit strange and comes across as yet another attack on women.

  • http://twitter.com/Pink_birrd Molly

    Thing is once your TEEN daughter is an adult she most likely will weigh more when her body has stopped growing.
    Most adult women do NOT weigh 110 without trying, being that tall.

  • http://twitter.com/Pink_birrd Molly

    A woman that is 5′ 8″ and 160 pounds is going to look slim to normal weight, especially if she is muscular.
    I’m 5′ 7″ and no one has told me I look overweight and I weigh 155.

  • http://twitter.com/Pink_birrd Molly

    I’m really tired of unnaturally SKINNY and TALL women being heralded as BEAUTIFUL. On tv, in magazines and in movies, I see women almost all the same shape.
    I rarely see women (besides JLo and Kim K.) that have any shape besides a boys build!
    I am sick of TEENAGERS defending their slim builds saying they are naturally that thin as well. Their bodies haven’t stopped growing, so they are thin, FOR NOW.
    I was much thinner when I was a teen than I am now as an adult. 
    Models shouldn’t glorify an impossible ideal when these ‘women’ are an ATYPICAL ideal.
    Get it through your heads, these women (models) do not eat 3 meals a day. They smoke and use stimulants to suppress their appetites. Look at Kate Moss, she was a waif and she’s 5’7″ and she used heroin to maintain her slim figure and she still smokes cigarettes.
    The modeling and fashion industry are in denial. 
    The women’s bodies we see in magazines look like BOY’s bodies!

  • Guest

    you’re calling the person an idiot (even though what they said is completely true) but yet you spelt the word metabolism as “motaboliziam” …hmmm

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZE2FKECGV5L3MJGKTTI4AETV74 HK

    “If pressure was being put on girls to be thin, you’d think you’d see more skinny girls.  Instead, obesity is increasing, even amongst children.  In reality, it is all of this fat acceptance that is causing the problem.  Fat is not healthy and IS an indicator that you aren’t taking care of yourself.”

    There is so much wrong with this that explaining your folly would exceed my data usage for the month. Suffice it to say, this might be the stupidest single comment ever written on the internet. That makes it the stupidest thing anyone has ever said.Your parents and/or children must be SO proud.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZE2FKECGV5L3MJGKTTI4AETV74 HK

    Ladies, don’t listen to Ayush. He apparently thinks the ideal woman looks like a scrawny teenage boy. We’ll let him worry about the implications of that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZE2FKECGV5L3MJGKTTI4AETV74 HK

    I’m pretty sure you have never seen, and will never see, a naked woman in real life. Because women really, REALLY don’t like people like you. Beyond having small cocks to laugh at, you offer nothing to the world.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZE2FKECGV5L3MJGKTTI4AETV74 HK

    Shiteating troll eats shit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZE2FKECGV5L3MJGKTTI4AETV74 HK

    Actually, he has a preference for teenage boys, I think…

    I say that not in the homophobic sense, but because he’s essentially describing a scrawny teenage boy in all of his obnoxious posts here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZE2FKECGV5L3MJGKTTI4AETV74 HK

    Health and appearance are not the same thing.

    Health and weight are not the same thing.

    These are absolutely indisputable, irrefutable statements.

    But no matter how often they’re reiterated, you get idiocy like these comments…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZE2FKECGV5L3MJGKTTI4AETV74 HK

    Based on your sense of historical scale, you probably believe the earth to be 6500 years old. Not in the biblical sense, but because apparently for you anything before the 1920s is prehistory.

  • http://twitter.com/DaisyQT1 Katarina

    I think both ladies in the photo are beautifull! I dont find them to be tooo skiny or tooo fat. They are just differently pretty and attractive.

  • http://paydayloans30.co.uk/ Noella Staten

    their body have any relevance to their worth as a human being.  Grow up!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    You’re looking a two photos of the SAME plus size model. Forward ahead to the anorexic one they’re talking about. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    Like they don’t shop the anorexic ones?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    “There’s no mention of the weight of the average woman 20 years ago as compared to now,”  This makes no sense. They’re talking PERCENTAGES. It’s irrelevant what the weights are. 

  • lilibeeh

    Studies have shown that people that are considered slightly overweight live longer than people who are of “normal” weight.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2009/06/portland_researchers_find_slig.html

  • Ili Approved

    Too many skinny ppl taking up indefense when what the post itself wasnt made for them.

  • Applesnbananas20

    I absolutely love the picture of the two models embracing one another. It’s very…honest. Because both types of sizes exist and every one else in between. Models aren’t too thin. They aren’t aiming to portray the ‘acceptable body type’ but simply to be different and unique. Because the truth is, being slim is becoming a unique feauture in this world. Sure maybe some models get lost along the way and become anorexic but it is no different than those who become obese. And for those who think that media portrays thin girls as ‘the better body’ then you’re prejudiced. Take a look at hip hop, rap, country videos. You will find nothing but curvacious bodies with large breasts, butts and thighs. Modeling is fashion and it so happens to involve mostly thinner woman. I hear no one complaining about the bodacious bodies that come out in music videos, which influence young girls much more than modeling.

  • http://www.ahammer4hire.com/ Camelia Laney

    their parents, may develope a body issue over believing their body have any relevance to their worth as a human being.  

  • Anonymous

    What moron came up with the term “plus size model?” (Besides being syntactically incorrect [plus-sized] it is manipulatively insulting to most women and should be insulting to all rational people.) Too many of us are WAY too self-conscious about our somatypes. Obese is not healthy, but large is neither unhealthy nor unattractive. Don’t let Madison Avenue con you into believing they can show you what you should look like. You are what you are, so stop trying to become what you think you ought to be and be yourself. THAT is true beauty!

  • http://www.kneepaintreatment.net/ Tarah Fong

     naked plus size models tend to get people talking. Katya Zharkova is the latest girl to shed her clothes, and she’s making quite a statement.

  • Amysnel

    Wow… the amount of people coming here to talk about how NATURALLY skinny they are? Fine, fantastic, you’re not unhealthy or anorexic. You can eat anything that you want and don’t put on weight, even if you want to. Sorry to hear that, I also know how it feels to not have to watch my weight. This topic really isn’t about you. Anyone trying to bring naturally fast metabolisms into this is tragically missing the point. NO ONE is picking on YOU.

    Now lets actually get back to the topic that ISN’T about you and focus on the fact that the fashion industry promotes anorexia and unhealthy body image in girls who are NOT naturally that thin (which it absolutely does). No one is saying that you should be overweight, I think that all this editorial highlights is that the average fashion and runway model is far too thin and most don’t get to that weight by eating a balanced diet. I should know, I’m a fashion designer and I’ve seen what many models eat on an average day- namely…. energy drinks and gummybears. Anything that is low in fat and high in sugar for quick energy. I’ve seen models nearly faint on the runway during runthrough’s before a fashion show. It’s shocking and it’s the point that people should be focusing on, instead of personalising every topic to your own experience.

    Please keep that for your blog or your Twitter, people.

    kthnxbai.

  • Sruthiwarrier

    You disgust me. Who the hell are you to say that bigger women can’t model?I’m 5.5” and 145 pounds. Maybe I am a little overweight but so what? I’m happy with who I am. And what do you even mean when you say, ‘anything beyond a 26 inch waist is UNACCEPTABLE?’. Who on earth wants acceptance from someone like you? And I can afford a chic channel or a Versace dress, so I will wear it, coz guess what? I look amazing in it and I don’t need people like you telling me whats acceptable or not. 

  • http://www.sandiegolawfirm.com/ Margurite Partin

    I don’t think we should be blaming the fashion industry for the fact that people can’t stop at one Snickers.

  • Sruthiwarrier

    well said, really well said.

  • Becca

    I think the majority of you are missing the entire point of this. It’s about the modeling industry and how young girls are pressured into being what they see on the cover of a magazine. Even if the model herself is just fine, the image that is portrayed leaves girls and women who weigh more feeling bad about their image because that is the only body type they’re likely to see on a day to day basis (let’s be honest, not all models are naturally as thin as the one in the photo. And not all of them get there in a healthy way. Not to mention the airbrushing after the fact, even if they are healthy).

    Yes, there are plenty of women who are tall and naturally thin. THEY are not who these people are talking about. I know plenty of girls and women who eat very little in order to maintain a physique that is unhealthy for THEM. And a lot of it IS due to what the world portrays is acceptable.

    I’m not fat, and I’m not skinny. I’m healthy, and so are many of you who commented. The skinny model may be naturally skinny, but is she the average woman? Absolutely not. Is she who someone who is NOT naturally skinny aspire to be? Absolutely not. She is not a role model. If you’re healthy at that weight, fine. If you have to starve yourself to be that thin, it’s a problem.

    The overall point is that there is beauty in every size, and what should be put out to young girls and women is that what matters is being healthy, not skinny. Therefore, they should have all types of bodies only the cover of magazines, without so much editing and with the emphasis on loving the body that you have, not the one you want but can’t realistically aspire to.

    So rather than simply arguing how one height and weight is ok or not ok, the point should be that the image that is portrayed as the “right” way to look is not right for everyone. Diversity, and health, is what really matters.  So that is what we should be showing.

  • guest

    They both look disgusting and unhealthy, just in different ways. We shouldn’t be glorifying anorexic models, nor should we be glorifying that the “average” woman has ballooned to a size 14. 

  • bettsy

    This is possibly the most disturbing comment feed I have ever read. 

    I feel like everyone has completely missed the point of the article. It isn’t saying that we need to ‘bully’ and begin to pick on skinny girls and models, its simply stating people who have the influence that magazine editors do need to be more careful with what is portrayed as ‘normal’ in a world like today where almost every young girl looks to them on guidance for ‘normal’. 

    I am only 17 years old, and am not afraid to admit that I am definitely carrying a little too much weight. It is something that is in my genes, my mother is slightly overweight also. We aren’t skinny girls. We can’t wear super tight fitting clothes. It’s just the way life is. 

    I don’t hate skinny girls, I simply admire how lucky they are to get those beautiful ‘skinny’ genes. Sure, I do get jealous sometimes but thankfully I have surpassed the years in my life when I look at magazines and cry because I don’t have a tiny waist and long striking legs. 

    I think it’s ridiculous that some of the users on here are complaining about being insulted for being “too skinny”. Grow up, girls like me have always lived in a world where we we aren’t skinny enough. Skinny is certainly classified beautiful in the Western world, so be grateful that you do fit into the ‘norm’ and just acknowledge that there are people in the world such as this magazine editor who want to make EVERY girl feel slightly more ‘normal’ with the way they look. 

  • Clmoskovitz

    best. post. ever.

  • DBDT

    I am a fashion designer and I was told that it is against some rule to have models over a certain weight if I am not calling it a plus size line because in one of my show I did not use all thin models I say if you allow a hand full of people that feel there oppinion matter more that everyone else because they formed a small commity of like minded people then the few are controling the masses

  • DBDT

    I am a fashion designer and I was told that it is against some rule to have models over a certain weight if I am not calling it a plus size line because in one of my show I did not use all thin models I say if you allow a hand full of people that feel there opinion matter more that everyone else because they formed a small committee of likeminded people then the few are controlling the masses

  • http://www.myspace.com/thepreposteronauts Catzie3

    Whether the difference between average women and model is more because of the woman or more because of the model average is irrelevant. By itself, the fact that the models selling the clothing don’t resemble the women buying it is disturbing. 

  • Lisa Allen

    Sizes of clothes have definitely changed as well. I am 5′ 8″ tall and have always been between 123-130 lbs during my adult life. As a 38 year old woman I am likely around 128 lbs and in very good health. I don’t diet, but I generally eat healthy and am an active person. That being said, despite my size staying basically the same since I was in my teens, my clothing size has gone down from a (Canadian) 7 twenty years ago to about a size 4. The models may be smaller but the clothes have become larger…an interesting contrast.
    By the way, healthy is always beautiful – good skin, good hair and nice teeth are almost universal signs of health and beauty. Being a slim or being a little curvy are perfectly fine as long as people have overall health and well-being. People’s unhealthy pursuit of the extremes are where things can be dangerous.

  • MelJH

    No one can deal with critics. and you are all specialists in the field

  • Mezz_xo

    The fat chick overpowers and dominates the slimmer model, especially in the photo where she is lying on top of her. It’s like it’s trying to say, ‘The fat people are taking over’, and they portrayed the slim woman as weak and helpless in the fat girl’s embrace. Pathetic.
    But the fat girl just looks tryhard and unsexy. Fat people are greedy and undisciplined. These aren’t exactly attractive traits. Fatness and gluttony do not equal power, but rather a lack of control over oneself. It’s a problem that everyone in society needs to take responsibility for, not celebrate as a positive thing.

  • http://www.99escorts.co.uk/ Cheap London escorts

    According to me both the models give the nice pose in her above nude pictures. My penis becomes tight when i watch the above pictures first time. The plus size model has nice big boobs.

  • Reedeottenstein

    I can’t really even begin to describe how it feels to see images of stick skinny models . When I see those photos I think about myself and say in my head “You are so fat. You are so ugly. No one will ever like you. Look at your thighs! Its disgusting really. Its probably because of all those crackers you had this morning.” And this isn’t just something that happens occasionally or rarely. It happens everyday. On the T.V., the computer, on billboards, everywhere you go you can see images like this. And I hate it! I hate how the media has somehow made us all beleive that a stick figure is the only figure that is beautiful. I mean really? And the one time you see a plus-size model shes critisized for it? You have people calling her fat and ugly simply because she doesn’t starve herself and constantly work out? Its horrific really. I’m not saying skinny people are bad. People can absouloutely be born a size 0 no matter what they eat, and I have nothing against them. But why are they the only ones with a desirable figure? Why is it that when there’s a woman who doesn’t have that figure she is cruelly judged by others? There’s hardly ever times where you see a plus size model. While countless size 0 models are being displayed all over the country, how often do you see plus-sized models? I could count the number on my two hands. 

    And another thing, to all you fags who are saying that the plus sized model above is fat and ugly, I truly pity you. You must have a sad life if you truly are that shallow. Being overweight doesn’t mean you are an unhealthy pig. There are certainly weights that can affect your health and kill you even, but at her (the model above) weight, what could really be damaging her health so badly? Shes overweight, yes, but not morbidly obese to the point where she has diabetes and heart disease. My mom for example, she would be put in the overweight category. But she is absaloutley a healthy woman. She has an active lifestyle and plays tons of tennis. She cooks and eats healthy for the most part, but allows herself a treat every so often . And you really want to go out and say that everyone who is overweight is unhelathy and gross? Take a look at my mom and tell me that she is gross and unhealthy. 

    And if you wanna go out and say that fat people should’nt be allowed to model? Well, then you truly are an asshole. Ever heard of freedom of speech? of religion? of press? Well, it means that people here are allowed to do and say what they want no matter the race, sex, size, shape, age etc. 
    Who the hell are you to take that away from someone? And simply because of their size? really? I feel sorry for you

  • urdestiny

    I think there is nothing wrong with being tall and skinny especially people who are born this way. However, there’s a limit to it such as being severely underweight. It’s is the method used to lose weight that is wrong such as anorexia or bulimia. Many people diet but most diet do not work. Also dieting is not good for your health and will most likely harm you instead of you losing weight. I’m 5′ 4″ tall and i weigh 90 pounds. Some people might say that i am thin. However, i must say that i eat healthily and do not diet. For people who want to lose weight, you should go about it the right way and exercise more instead of dieting.

  • FleurDeLis

    We don’t know each other’s issues or non-issues. So for us to categorize what’s healthy and what’s not, what’s acceptable and what’s not, is highly inappropriate. We all have different DNA, different metabolisms, etc. I’m 5’3, 106 lbs. This is the most I’ve ever weighed in my life. And to most of you that may be normal, or okay. I think so too. But due to the fact that I’m a black girl in the south, a lot of people think that I’m too skinny, and that I need to put on weight. There are people out there who believe that a size 16 is beautiful. There are others who think that a size 0 is beautiful. There are a lot of things that help us decide for ourselves what’s beautiful TO US and what isn’t. But that doesn’t mean we’re right. That doesn’t mean we’re wrong either. We ARE wrong when we begin generalizing by saying that everyone who is “overweight” eats too much and doesn’t exercise and everyone who is “skinny” is anorexic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Que-Stevenson/1204180733 Que Stevenson

     I don’t think that anyone “celebrates” being overweight. I think so called overweight people just want to be accepted and treated with respect. Being overweight does not mean you are dirty, greedy, or lazy just like being skinny does not mean you are clean, healthy/eat in moderation, or active. At 5’3″, I have weighed as little as 103lbs when I was younger (before I hit my 30s) and as much as 167lbs (after my 3rd child) I now weigh 155lbs. I don’t overeat, in fact I do not eat enough! Metabolism along with other issues, changes over time, making losing weight harder. It’s not fair to treat people disrespectfully when you don’t even know what they are really going through concerning their weight. It also doesn’t make sense to only carry certain sizes in a store as if there are not women who are shorter than 5’7 and weigh more than 120lbs.

  • Raina

    Wow…. how shallow are you. You don’t know what this models health situation is or if it affects her weight. You really need to open your eyes and mature. You can’t possibly be an adult with if this is what you truly believe. 

  • http://twitter.com/Nathiest Nathiest

    That’s a whole lot of ham hawk.  Also I don’t see the controversy. Where is it?

  • Mabs Dreams

    Why is it when a person weighs “5’7 and 104 lbs”, its okay to be skinny because its ‘natural’ but when a person is 5’3 and 170 lbs, it’s not natural its because the person is lazy and doesn’t exercise well… etc… whether u’re naturally skinny or grossly naturally skinny, the point it skinny is okay… being fat, whether its ur genes or not, is not! It’s so fucking annoying how the world goes around only for the skinny… skinny=evil!

  • http://twitter.com/Becca859 Rebecca B.

    These models are examples of two extremes of body types. The heavier one, though ‘curvy’ and rubenesque, likely suffers from hypertension and high LDL in addition to possessing a layer of visceral fat around her organs. The skinny model looks undernourished w/ a low bone density. As such, I would consider neither to be “healthy”.

    I am 5’9″ and 133lbs. w/ an acceptable BMI and BF% – I also wear a size 4 (US). I am concerned for the ladies on this forum who claim to be extremely out of proportion w/ regards to height and weight (i.e. 5’9 110lbs.) yet referring to themselves as “healthy”. My concern is that your BF% and muscle mass is too low and that your bones may be of low density (health implications –> osteoporosis). Though “weight” scales and BMI are not necessarily indicative of ones health, they are still considered good standard baselines. Women need to maintain a certain BF% in addition to an adequate bone density – it is crucial for good health. Those who have difficulty holding onto their weight despite eating a tonne should seek the advice of their physician as well as an RD. There are supplements one can take.

  • Lizzie

    i’m just jealous of all the people on here bragging about how they can eat whatever they want and only weigh 110. oh to be thin… </3

  • http://twitter.com/BunnyLefluf Bunny Lefluf

    im with you.. im thin..and all the time i have ppl ask me if i diet.. no..i dont..i just dont eat junk..or oh you must not eat..what!!?? of course i do.. ppl somehow now think fat is normal its not..its fat. and im not talking about chubby either.. 

  • http://twitter.com/BunnyLefluf Bunny Lefluf

    yes.. and you know whats funny.. how they use the word curvy now.. curvy is just what is says.. you have some curves .. but they use this with ppl whom are just plain over weight. go on youtube and look at any older videos from the 60s 70s even 80s most of just average ppl are slim.. now you look at a crowd and most ppl are overweight.. not curvy.

  • Anonymous

    Us fatties should last a lot longer when the predicted famine hits, if we can get the bigger problem solved (enough water). Good luck to you though, I’m sure you will be looking good through the whole ordeal…jf…

  • peaches

    I dont care y’all gonna say, but that plus-sized model IS BEAUTIFUL!!! Not everybody has the kind of body that allows them to eat all sorts of things and still stay skinny. Infact, most dont! If you do, u are lucky and blessed. But if u are curvy and not obessed, u are ALSO lucky and blessed…just as long as u keep it that way.

  • Sarah

    Everyone please stop trying to tell the other they’re wrong. Everyone has their opinion but in mine everyone is beautiful! What a sexy but cute photo shoot! very beautiful!

  • Anonymous

    I’m just stupid I guess, I read the story, looked at the pictures, and read some of the comments, and can’t find the fat girl.  One of the women in the pictures looks like she might be what I call a “big” girl, (tall and full bodied, what I happen to like) So whats the value of this article?

  • Anonymous

    Are you a Koolaid drinker? Gluttony is rampant bulimia and usually not associated with overweight. Bulimics keep their weight down by puking everything they eat, and gluttons puke so they can eat more.  What’s with the “weak and helpless”, you talk too much.

  • Anonymous

    Most of the world can’t afford enough food to be fat like us in USA.  The other day the Indian girl said she wanted to come to see America where even the poor people are fat. This whole story is kind of dumb…jf…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2HLJS5STTQ2SMC5R5S55WTHZPE J. Q. Public

    Seriously, you sound like every other 15 year old boy on the internet spewing opinions based on your “vast” life experience. Though if you think that stick model in the pictures is hot, you might want to just admit to yourself what you ACTUALLY find attractive is prepubescent boys, becuase thats what she looks like. skinny arms, no curves and straight and flat as a board.

  • Kjarvl

    Okay people heres the thing, some guys perfer skinny girls, others plus size, and some like them in between.  Everyone likes somethign different, but  IT DOESN’T MATTER.  All that matters is how you view yourself and all this add was trying to do is tell bigger girls that they don’t need to look like that stick thin girl that you normally see in a magazine.  If your skinny your beautiful and if your plus size your just as beautiful too.  Everyone is different. All this is saying is it’s OKAY to be bigger.  Unfortunately our society is so messed up that people don’t already know this.

  • Miloajb

    people need to realize that we are more than just a weight and height. the very fact that this ad has caused this type of response is outrageous. the purpose of this ad WASNT for each individual to feel the need to defend their weight, it was to identify that the average model isnt a proper representation of the average person. and it most definitely isnt a means to define what an overweight, underweight, and average weight is for a specific individual. simply: the ad is saying that today the media and “mainstream” culture doesnt have a diverse definition of beauty. if you dont fit their requirement you are not “beautiful” you are not meant to be on the cover of a magazine. and this is the most shocking part about the ad.

  • O.

    I don’t like that they never show the skinny model’s face. Do we have to dehumanize the person who’s cause isn’t the focus? Can’t we all just be equal and go on from there?

  • Guest

    You are who you are. You shouldn’t have to change your appearance just to satisfy others. If you are happy with your looks than all is good. Don’t let others classify you; just be you. :)

  • Catbobslife

    It is true that obesity is the new nor5m! All I see walking around are teenage girls in low rise jeans with disgusting rolls hanging over and thighs 30 inches around. We have gone too too far with body acceptance. Fat is not beautiful! Having lost 145lbs. I can understand the need to rationalize excess weight as curvy, or big boned but it a sad fact that excess body fat is killing a lot more people than anorexia ever will. I have a large bone structure for a woman 46 inch shoulders, 38 bust, 26 waist, 34 hips, 20 thigh circumference at 5′ 6” I keep my weight under 135 healthy BMI and will probably have a healthier life than someone at 160lbs kidding themselves they’re normal because we live surrounded by obesity. Wake up and buy a tape measure. 

  • Buflobee

    Judging by your horrible spelling and grammar, food is the least of your problems. 

  • Sensenya

    Hey, I am 13, 5′ 6”, AND 95lbs. I am really skinny. My familly are all of varying builds and weights, but my direct familly are all pretty thin. But people at school are always calling me anorexic, and I can’t tell you how much I HATE IT. Like wise, people make fun of my small breasts and large feet. but I think I am pretty and all m friends say I am beautifull. So I know I am okay.
    Personally, I don’t think it is okay to be overwheight, but if you are born a heavier girl, thats okay, because that is natural. We all know how to be heathly and accepting. We just need to do it more.
    AND BTW, DONT EVER CALL SOMEONE ANOREXIC OR OBESE UNLESS YOU ARE A DOCTOR.

  • Nunya

    Yeah, the whole point is that young women are and can be healthy with out being super skinny. People are showing examples of naturally healthy girls. I’m pretty sure we all get the message, and the fact that you are an idiot.

  • Sensenya

    all i have to say is that you are a bitch.

    and im not chubby im thin as a rail, but some how i have the sence to c that people can be who they want, and your pathetic atempt to push them away means nothing

  • Sensenya

    that is bareley by sight overwheight, and is deffinatly normal if u were to look at a bmi chart

  • Thisistarded

    If you are muscular, you are strong. How the hell can that be unatractive? All the girls in Nike adds look preety damn good to me. Given, they aren’t supermodels who walk runways, but they are another form of adertisement seen by young women. And they can shape how we think about out bodies.

  • Hwalker9103

    As opposed to all the fake women walking around the world? Haha!

  • Xspacekitty

     Do you see what they did here? They made the skinny model faceless, and only showed the back of her head, and dazzled up the plus size model more, made her smile. A smile is always more appealing when selling a product. Just like what you see in the commercials on tv. They will compare before and after their product, the before picture isn’t smiling and the after one is radiant. Theres that for starters. 

    Secondly, of course a skinny girl is going to look to small comparing in pictures and the angles of the camera. I am A skinny short model, and I do HAVE curves, I will not shoot with models that are not around my height or are too much bigger in weight because it looks awkward in photographs. I have a beautiful tall curvy friend who is actually healthy and curvy (not back fat like the photo above.) But I will not do a photo shoot with her because it doesn’t look right in photos,  We both individually are great models. When we have taken pictures together, we’ve had to work out the poses so it looked right. They intentionally made the larger model dominate the tiny model, and made her super glammed out! 
    annnd just think you see a lot of bigger “curvy” woman with skinny/healthy men, thats that you look like on top of your man. 

  • who gives a fuck

    incorrect, waist size 23

  • who gives a fuck

     marilyn monroe was 23 waist 35 hips.

  • fuck you

    hater

  • kitty

    I think this is fucking dumb, dont look at what the article says, look at how they photographed both models and get what they are doing, and who they are favoring. k thanks

  • Bob W

    These ladies are beautiful together; and in a world where there is way too much ugliness occurring between people, I celebrate that beauty.

  • De Glen12

    Curves are beautifull….bony chicks look like they starving themselves..omg..skinny gals get hold on urself…..and get a little curvier size 12-14…..is hot!

  • Garytuggers

    i love it !!! i want to be inside both ladies & give them a plus size treat

  • Reggiewa

    The plus size woman is way better looking than the skinny one. Women are beautiful beings and come in different shapes and sizes, each beautiful in her own right. The modelling agencies are the ones that are causing all the confusion. They are causing women to hate themselves just so they can make a buck. I’m an African man and let me tell you that women with more curves are way sexier than skinny ones. The guys who hate and insult fuller women are confused as they are also controlled by the image projected by these magazines and modelling agencies.
    Most men want fuller women and this has caused many skinny women to seek all kinds of implants to compete with the fuller women.  No wonder why many women are going for breast implants, ass implants, and all kinds of implants just so they can achieve the sexier figure of a fuller woman.

  • Robyn

    How about we manipulate the way that we look at this argument a little, and instead of placing a slim girl beside a larger girl and having people duke it out over which body type is more preferable given absolutely no background information about the two females, we get three pretty ladies and say here: They eat healthy, balanced meals, get the minimum 90 minutes of physical activity a day, and have an otherwise clean bill of health, they are models.

    I’m sure that all three ladies would look somewhat different of course; there would be naturally thin people and naturally larger people, but I guarantee they would all most likely be attractive to a majority of the population none the less.

    For example, we would have larger women models who do not have waists that protrude past their breasts and extensive mid-section rolls since excessive stomach fat is often caused by an unhealthy lifestyle or bodily ailments such as thyroid disease. On the opposite end, we wouldn’t have skinnier women models who have bones protruding from their backs, shoulders, and other areas that suggest malnourishment, but who may still have slightly protruding hip bones and smaller chest, or backside.

    Everyone wins, because their preferred body type has a place among the models, and no one (sane) can argue that their body type holds any sort of superiority since all three are within healthy guidelines, and maybe just maybe everyone can agree that being too skinny and being too fat are both epidemics, that they can both seriously harm you or cause death, and that flaunting one body extreme in the media isn’t going to magically cure people’s desire for the other, now is it?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1553276322 Tracy Wesson-Isham

    Oh boo hoo!! i can’t gain weight, i eat tons and i am still skinny.  blahblahblah!!  tell it walking.  most obese people would give their eye teeth to be able to say that once in their lifetime. fact remains, it is harder for obese people to be accepted than it is for skinnier people.  period.  

  • Devi

    All your closed-minded anger directed at women’s body types probably has more to do with your own shortcomings as a man. You made the most idiotic comment on this entire thread (and this thread is filled with them!) by saying skinny is better than healthy. What an immature, moronic, irresponsible thing to say! Most grown men are enlightened enough not to base their entire opinions on women solely on the sizes on their waist.

    I question wether or not you’ve ever been in a successful relationship of any consequence with a real woman of any size since you seem to be focused on a detail that does not make or break a relationship. You are exceptionally bitter, shallow, ignorant, and immature. Don’t paint all other men with your own brush because there are a lot of good ones out there and they get a bad rap because of people like you.  

  • Blake

    Everyone needs to understand that this Ayush guy comes from a part of the earth where it’s perfectly acceptable to set your wife on fire for insurance money, abort female babies, and legally call little girls ‘Unawanted’. He will NEVER understand about treating women like human beings with feelings or rights because in his backwards mind, they are about as worthy as cattle. That’s where he gets his BS about women only being attractive if their waists are less than 28″ and that it’s better to be skinny than healthy. He’s a lost cause and a bully with a computer. I feel sorry for all the women that cross this caveman’s path.

  • Britt

    Ayush, I doubt you are on anybody’s ‘attractive’ list with your opinions. Are you really so inexperienced and or arrogant to believe you get to decide FOR THE ENTIRE POPUPLATION OF THE EARTH what constitutes attractiveness in a woman? A 28″ waist or less is more important than being faithful, intelligent, kind, an educated in your mind? Why do you hate women so much? Judging by the body type you find attractive plus your ridiculous standards of beauty towards women, I would venture to guess you might in fact be a furiously closeted gay man and you lash out with mysogynism as a cover.

  • Jamie

    Life experience tells me guys who have a hard time getting real women are the ones with higher physical standards of beauty. The ‘ol sour grapes story. You are fugly in real life. I know it.  

  • Guest

     You needn’t breed, darling.

  • Guest

    The plus-size model looks much better, and is probably a lot healthier. Good for her.

  • I Am MeKS

    The point of this article should be that “skinny” and “fat” are degrading terms. Either word could affend anyone. Fashion designers can use smaller girls in their fashions shows and clothing lines, but they should also balance it with equal opportunities for bigger women. It’s ridiculous to see everyone arguing and slandering each other with insults over an article. Any size woman is beautiful. Beauty comes from within. Girls should be able to pick up a magazine and not feel like they ned to conform to a certain size to feel good about themselves. I’m not, however, saying that being overweight is okay. If there is a serious medical problem that could result from a person’s weight (meaning obesity and morbid obesity) then girls should know that they don’t need to be that size. Basically girls should know to be comfortable in their own skin based off of what they see in the media. Appearances shouldnt be the main focus in life.

  • I Am MeKS

    No, you can’t define a healthy weight for all women based on one person’s height. Depending on height a women could weigh 160 and still be considered healthy.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VLHIANHTNSOWLPZ4PIYARJUBBI HopeyChangey

    So women have gotten fatter while models have stayed the same. The funny part is people not so long ago used to point out how unhealthy ’50s models looked cuz they had curves. Where do you think the current model trend came from if not whining about that?

  • KAH9

    Just because the majority are doing it doesn’t make it a good idea. Most of us that reach weights and measurements (fat around the middle) that have health risks do not do so because its normal, or because of genetics or slow metabolisms. We do it because we eat more calories then we burn. We may do this because we are bored or because we have exhausting desk jobs that make us want to tune out in the evening in front of the TV and getting started exercising regularly can be a challenging habit to form both time and motivation wise. Worst of all though, is what we are marketed. Free will is a challenge to use. Both our minds and bodies are being fed garbage, its everywhere, its easy, they put flavor enhancers in it, they advertise it to you constantly. They want you to accept an unhealthy body weight as normal and acceptable because they make the most money selling you cheap garbage. The health care industry makes a pretty penny too. I got a little bit “heavy” for several years. I didn’t like the way I felt. I lost it though and I didn’t have to starve myself to do it, I just had to pay attention to what I was consuming vs how much I was burning and create a 500 calorie deficit. I ate 3 satisfying meals a day, I snacked, I ate desert daily and I even had a drink or two in the evenings. There were no foods that were completely off limits. I made it a game to see how much flavorful food I could fill my plate with for the least calories saving some for desert and I focused on foods that were the most filling. This resulted in a naturally healthier diet full of lean proteins, whole grains and lots of fruits and veggies. I made more food at home instead of eating out which made this easier, though I did still eat out sometimes. Instead of lots of extra sugar and fats I got my flavor from seasoning everything heavily. I spiced up my food because it satisfies better, it makes you eat slower and it also does boost your metabolism for a bit. When I first started calorie counting, I wasn’t even exercising, though that certainly improved how I felt and looked when I started. Anyway, it wasn’t hard, I didn’t starve and I feel a million times better being at the lower end of my healthy weight range. Use a feedback loop to help if you want to do this too – there are lots of great free apps and websites that make it really simple. Irregardless of what it looks like or what other people think, it feels better and is healthier to be thin.

  • Saikado

    Since everyone is saying what they are….
    I’m 5’5, 120, size 7, shirt medium, and is as average as it gets :D YAY FOR AVERAGE. (Since everyone is either defending skinny or fat…. GO MEDIUM! WOO!)

  • http://indiaresultsexam.blogspot.in/ school board results

    did any of you notice the freckles on the thin girls ass? 

  • http://www.moviefollow.in/ Movieupdates

    wow..really bold n beautiful.

  • Kalos

    You are a colossal jerk, you have a big mouth to shout your little opinion. I’m 5’6.5 and I weigh 195 pounds. I’m  a size 12 with a 38H bra size. I can bench press 135 pounds and squat 425, I can run distance and sprint, I lift weights and do cardio 4-5 times a week. I am a healthy person, my labs values reflect that I take care of my body & my doctor has repetedly told me he would kill for my cholesterol levels. I can even consider myself fit; My body does everything it was created to do and everything I ask it to do. How is that not beautiful? If you just base beauty on how thin somebody is, not how their body functions, it’s going to be bad for you when you age & become dependent on the woman you thought was so thin & beautiful.

    It will be beautiful, sweet come-uppance when you fall & break something & your woman’s body isn’t strong enough to help you.

    Beauty is about WHO a person is, NOT WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. It is about how they treat others, what they contribute to this world in the short time we are given. And by those measures, you are a very ugly person, indeed.

  • Kaila

    There is a lot of BMI being thrown around in this discussion. BMI is just a mathematical equation that correlates height to weight….it doesn’t tell you what is making your body weigh that. I”m 5’6.5 and when I tell people that I weigh almost 200lbs and sometimes a little over, people are astounded. I’m regularly told that I look a good 20 to 30 pounds lighter than I actually am. I am pretty active, I’m at the gym 4 times a week, I eat mostly good, but the facts are I just have a lot of muscle mass. I can bench 135 and squat 425 give or take 10 depending on my energy. If you have somebody stand next to me who was the same height, but was 200 pounds of fat, they would look morbidly obese…I work in healthcare, I had to weigh people COSNTANTLY and any time I saw a woman around my height and my weight I would freak out and think “oh my gosh, is that how I look?” but I have come to learn that I carry weight differently. But more importantly my body is healthy, it does everything God created it to do, and everything I demand of it. So while I might not be considered “thin” I’m still considered healthy, even fit. A body isn’t here to “look” a certain way, it is here to perform basic life functions, when it can’t do those tasks is when it’s an unhealthy body…thin people can be just as unhealthy as fat people and vice versa. Treat your bodies well, people, love them, they are the only body you get. I’ve seen first hand what happens to old bodies that haven’t been well cared for, trust me, it’s not fun, or pretty, it’s messy, embarrassing(the constant complaint I get from patients whose bodies no longer function & need more than minimal help performing activities of daily living) and makes you feel like less of a person.

    LIVE, LOVE, LAUGH OFTEN

    Cheers,
    Kaila

  • Julia Earle

    cindy vs. giselle isn’t really a good example … i’d say they’re about the same, personally. now, cindy vs. freja beha erichsen or sasha pivovarova would be a better example.

  • Julia Earle

    “twenty years ago the average model weighed 8% less than the average woman; today she weighs 23% less.” let’s also keep in mind the fact that “average women”, particularly in america where obesity has become an epidemic, have become heavier than they were 20 years ago, which is obviously a significant factor in those figures.

    on that note, i’d also like to add that this plus size woman shown here looks overweight to me, not completely healthy. that’s not to say that the skinny one looks healthier, but i don’t think we should be glorifying plus size models as the ideal beauty, because being overweight has its health risks just as much as being underweight does.

  • None

    Weight is just a number. What matters is bone density and amount of muscle. When you look at someone with those ideas in mind it’s easier to judge whose healthy and who could improve them selfs. People with more muscle can look more tonned and even smaller than the person who doesn’t have as much muscle and weigh more. Weight is just a number you shouldn’t use it as a comparison.

  • http://twitter.com/RexHudlerIsms Rex Hudler…. ism’s

    Yuck, did she have to twist her fat for the photo? I think I’m going to be sick

  • Don’t Hate!

     You are a sick fuck.  Die now okay?

  • Ryan Goslin

    2/10 would not bang

  • Mds

    Im 5´11, and a size 6-8. Went  to the gym to be healthier, my P.T. said I was “kinda fat”. I said to HIM calmly: “b*tch, you´re fired”. And that was that.
    It´s not about being thin, it´s about being healthy and happy.  

  • Shannan

    one question can you tell me what skinny is to you? is it a girl who is a size 6 or a girl who is a size 0? what about the girls who are at a healthy weight but don’t wear a size 0 or size 1? in an earlier post you said something about guys liking bigger breast on women it is very rare for a girl to be super skinny and have big breast naturally. Just saying. 

  • Cindy

    I am 5 feet 9 inches tall and I weigh 200 pounds. I have a large bone structure, broad shoulders and will never ever weigh below 175 pounds unless I starve myself. My body size came from my genetics, not laziness or over eating. Many men judge me on my body size and never even give me a chance to show what kind of person I am. It’s extremely hurtful and damaging to a womans self esteem to be judged on her size, and not what kind of person she is. Sad fact is, many men, such as Ayush are very shallow and only care about how a woman looks and not what she is. Then they wonder why Little Miss Hottie screwed them over for someone younger/richer/better looking than them. Shallow people attract other shallow people and that’s what you get. In the meantime, all of we women that are not perfect, but, good people inside go unappreciated.

  • Viviandark

    If you are going to call someone an idiot, don’t type like one. UR R U – these are not words. I don’t even care to read the gist of what you have said because you have zero credibility.

  • Viviandark

    Don’t you know Motabaliziam? It’s between Elbonia and Jerkistan. Their major export is oil and sarcasm.

  • Viviandark

    What is your native language exactly? Where did you take rhetoric 101? It is ‘impossiable’ for me to even discern what the point is of your argument. It’s funny how you accuse others of personalizing the article and then in the same post tell us all your measurements. Guess what, we don’t care, Jinies.

  • Hjfgjj

    i find it strange that the models are presented naked and embracing each other. Imagine if these were male instead of female. People would be weirded out, but it baffles me that people think nothing of it when it’s two women instead of men

  • Fgh

    seriously- the fact that there’s even an article attempting to make a point about the relation between body weight and attractiveness for women is only bringing more attention to it which isn’t going to help. The root of the problem comes from women being presented in a light that focuses on their looks over other qualities they possess. 

  • Sisi

    I don’t understand why is everyone quoting different body size and weight. The end of the day, we are different. But over eating or not eating are both unhealthy disease. Also, have they think why are the designers or the industries are like that? Maybe of commercial reasons? Maybe we all secretly obsessed with being thin and only buy clothes from skinny models?

  • Mad

    It is easy to lose belly fat/visceral fat, the fat that has very severe consequences for health, by eliminating toxic foods.  Some of these are:  high fructose corn syrup (and other refined sugars) and, strangely enough, wheat.  Why wheat?  Over the last 40-50 years, wheat, which historically has been called the staff of life,  has been genetically modified to be easier to grow, and with higher yields per acre, BUT the metabolic effects of modern wheat are disastrous for most people. 

    Modern wheat has a glycemic index higher than that of refined sugar! This causes the body to store excess blood sugar as fat, and also stresses the pancreas, leading to type 2 diabetes.  The increase in obesity and diabetes in Americans tracks exactly the development of genetically modified wheat and the increased use of high fructose corn syrup, especially in processed foods.

    Just try it.  Change nothing else, but just go off wheat for a month and see if you lose a modest amount of unhealthy visceral (belly) fat.   

    Without starving, you will eventually be the weight you want to be, with a flatter belly.  (You may also improve allergies and skin conditions linked to wheat consumption.)

    Good luck!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BWV42IMARUWEEMU5AIEC5IQOGE Rachel

    I do not think this is the place for name calling.  I’m a plus size woman and I would like to say that it is not right to tear down anyone’s body image.  That being said, I would like all of you to note that the only person receiving criticisms is over insulting someone who is thin….would you bring the same defense to someone who was criticisizing the overweight?  Just remember that words are dangerous.  In a society where there is little give a damn about others, maybe we should focus on the fact that ALL women are beautiful in their own right.  There are no standards for dress sizes and things like that, so screw the numbers and let’s be happy we are alive and blessed with people who love us.  The photographs for this article are beautiful and the modeling industry will probably always be controversial.

  • This Is Who I Am <3

    I can’t even find a word to describe what you are. You are just so rude and stupid. I can’t believe you can even say stuff like all that. I honestly think that the reason you are saying it is because you are obese and have self esteem issues. Just because you don’t like their bodies, doesn’t mean you should make them not like their bodies. Do you know how much harm you can do by calling a woman fat or obese? People KILL themselves over this shit. So, get your brain straight and go to hell.

  • Nsu_mom

    i totally agree with you!!! I have the same, fast metabolism and am 5’5″ and am a size 6. I find it in VERY bad taste (and hurtful as well) to say that a thin person is gross and un-natural. It’s just the way we are. Like those that have trouble loosing weight, we have the trouble of GAINING weight and KEEPING it on. I love my body and am completely natural. I can out-eat anyone in my family and the just wonder where I put it. LOL Some people can be so short-sighted and they just don’t understand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Candice-Roma/100003040992245 Candice Roma

    It’s not a matter of what is natural or what is normal. Some people are thin. Fine. Congratulations. Move on. Some people aren’t. The point is that people who aren’t thin are not represented in media, and not being thin is just as natural as being thin for some people. I’m not talking about morbidly obese, but for some women with a large frame or a more athletic build, me for example, 5’7  160 is totally normal and healthy despite the BMI calculator saying it’s overweight. I was once 125, and I had to do the most unnatural things to maintain that weight. I wasn’t healthy, but i was thin. THIN IS NOT SYNONYMOUS with healthy. 

  • Just

    The general view of society is smaller is beautiful, we all need to admit that, BUT we also need to remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and everyone feels different about it, therefore we need to respect others opinions.

  • Guest

    PORN.  This editorial is just an excuse to put nude pictures in an unrestricted magazine.  I’m all for having healthier body images as my ex-husband was 6’6″ and 170 at the age of 13 and he suffered ridicule because of it.  I also taught middle school science and watched young ladies destroy themselves because they could not compare to the magazines.  My issue with this article is its disreguard for the intimacy of the nude human body.  This shoot could have been of a completely dressed plus size model hanging with her standard model friend.  That would have been a spread I could have shared with my 13yo daughter to show her that the entire world does not expect her to be pencil thin.

  • I8reality

    TROLL.  that is all.

  • I8reality

    WoW BeeeeOCH alert!!!

  • J in I

    Just cut out the insulting already. This thread has become a litany of slender women defensively listing their stats over and over and over which had nothing at all to do with the article. Let’s get back to productive discussion. You’re 5’10″ and 110 pounds. You’re 5’3″ and 200 pounds. Either way, good for you, whatever. How about ignoring the trolls and the rude fools and discussing the actual article and intent of the photo spread. I’m not the least interested in what you weigh, that’s not what is at issue here. 

  • Beltbuckle1950

    hey …Ladies….whoa!!!   Men !!.. We love all of you….that’s why all of you.. are who, and what you are!!!    You are all special…to the man that  LOVES YOU…….scheeeeze!!!!   get a grip!!!      and i’m over 60…trust me…I know what I’m talking about….

  • Anonymous

    I am 5′ 1” and I usually weigh from 86-95 lbs. I have a very fast metabolism, which makes trying to gain weight very difficult. Some people tell me this is a good problem to have, but i am very self conscious about it. It makes me feel that i look like a child, and when people make comments about how small i am, it can be very hurtful. I think that the issue should be about the media displaying ALL body types. not only skinny models, and not only plus sized models. They should feature models in every size so the public can associate better with them. If you ask me, it’ll boost their business too.

  • HAY

    All that should be said is that, As a society we should embrace women of all shapes and sizes because lord knows the battles they face by themselves. Every Woman is beautiful… Whether they are 5’7 117 or 5’7 185. :)

  • Tajg98

    I have been on both ends being super thin up through my mid twenties.   Perfect stranger would come up to me and say you need to eat more, you look sickly.  It was natural, I ate like a horse.  Eventually when I settled into an office job and didn’t change my eating habits I gained a ton of weight.   I feel sexier at a size 14 than I ever did at a size 0.   I have more self confidense, am not ashamed to be seen naked.   I hated having the body of a child when I was too thin.  I never wanted a boyfriend to see my naked. 

  • Imani

    I have no probelm with fashion showing skinny models. My sis is 35 and a sz 6 at 5’4″. Shes been skinny all her life so Im not saying my sis is hideous. She’ll eat u out of house & home and still not gain a pound!I dont hate anyone 4 being naturally thin. My issue is when fashion doesnt make room 4 a broad showing of body types yet they make their clothes up to a size 12-20 and never think 2 use models beyond sz 00-4?They claim the clothes show better on thin models so if thats the case the designers are also saying their clothes dont look right on a size 12 or 14 yet they r more than happy 2 take our money? how foolish are we?And when we hear abt mdoels being let go bc they “gained” weight it sends a clear message that they dont value normal and above avg weight consumers but they like our money just fine  but refuse 2 use our body types 2 sell their clothes! We need 2 hold designers accountable 4 shutting us out of the spotlight bc theyve decided our size is undesireable!

  • Anonymous

    To all the women out there, Curves makes a women a women. It is beautiful and sensous.
    Thats what nature provided.

  • Hayleylowman

    I’m 22, 5ft 1 and weigh 77pounds. I eat like an absolute horse and have never, ever had any eating disorders. I am very petite and I am thin, but I certainly do not look un-healthy. I’m not too conscious about my looks or weight, and I do not hold much interest in models or in the fashion industry.
     I do however, hold an interest in how women are portrayed. Until the media realises that women of every natural body type be portrayed as healthy, and beautiful, people will constantly disagree with the images they are seeing, and there will constantly be worrying ideas and opinions of health influencing the more vulnerable and younger minds.

     Although I am slim, I do not see my body-type regarded as ‘beautiful’ at all. There appears to be work in the making as the article suggests on catering (‘once again’) to the larger frame, which is a positive change. However I see nothing for short women. Because: “They do not show off the clothes”. It would seem our height does not look good in clothes. This is one example of a woman-type that is not being portrayed, very probably amongst many, many others.

     I do not think we should be looking at these images of women as a portrayal for beauty and what women ‘should’ look like, but thinking for ourselves, and being inspired by women who’s personalities and intelligence, wit and creativity shape a true idea of beauty and project an ‘image’ to be inspired by in their voices and opinions as well as their looks.

    This superficial projection of women and people worries me.
     
     

  • Hailisunshine

    i toatally agree but we should also teach the younger generation to eat healthy and i dont mean diet foods i mean getting all the nutrints they need tokeep their bodies going and junk food is ok if u eat it in little portions and not all the time and THEN once they are eating what they need and exersizing well they should embrace whatever their body looks like, because some woman really do look that natuarly, and some look like the plus size model who btw looks really good actually, its not about skinny or fat its just about healthy.

  • Hailisunshine

    that was rude and uncalled for, all she was trying to say was that she agrred and she had a slim figure and got quetioned for it but its natural, lay off dude  and who are u to judge what is and isnt nomarl.

  • Kmcampbell7

    How did this become a grand stand for naturally thin women to defend themselves? I see how it began, but this justification to be thin and natural misses the entire point of the article. but I guess this bash and trash going on below shows just how much hurt and insecurity women have with body image.

  • Gingerbred

    I’m not going to tell you my height, weight, age, BMI, shoe size, or favorite flavor of ice cream. Let’s try and focus on the real issue here: the media’s generalizing and idealizing of the human body. There are not only millions of versions of the “perfect body,” but millions of ways to achieve it. I disagree with all of them, except the one that says eat well, eat portions, and don’t sit and stare at the TV or computer or watch paint dry all day. If you’re still not satisfied, amp up the exercise, choose better eat a little less. STILL not satisfied? Either you have no idea what I mean when I say those things, or you’ll never truly be satisfied. So figure it out and realize you’ll never be something that you’re not.

  • J.

    Phew!  This is a sensitive topic!  I have just recently learned to be comfortable with my body type.  When I was younger, I effortlessly maintained a healthy weight, now it’s a bit more work.    At 41, I have no health problems and no prescriptions.  I eat a lot, but it’s mostly healthy food.  I drink lots of water.  I walk, I dance, I do yoga and tai chi, I lift weights, I ride my bike, I run on the elliptical machine. I don’t do these things to try to be skinny, I do them for my health but mostly because I love to move my body.  It feels so good to be alive!

    Now for the kicker – I’ve noticed a lot of posts arguing over whether a woman can be attractive if she’s 5’8 and 120, or 150, or 180 lbs.  Most people seem to agree that anything over 140 is a bit on the heavy side… I’m 5’1 and 150 lbs. BUT I have a 30″ waist and about 23% body fat.  The rest is muscle mass and bone density.  I wear a size 10 because of my lovely, round bottom, but when I was in my early 20′s (after the birth of my second child) I became borderline anorexic.  My weight got down to 112 (at the higher end of healthy range according to BMI), I had chronic bronchitis and candida, and you could see THE BONES IN MY SKULL.  I was a size 6 – 8 at that point, still in plus-size model territory.

    Needless to say, I think the whole industry is full of it.  Hats off to any woman who is happy and healthy in her own skin, and any man who has no idea what size an attractive woman should be!

  • Stearns_amber

    BOTH the models in these photos are beautiful. That’s the point of it. Be happy with your body, skinny, curvy, fat, purple whatever. I think this pointless arguing in this thread is exactly what this article was trying eliminate. Love each other. Don’t judge one another because that’s exactly the reason why these articles are published in the first place.

  • WAKE UP

    HOLY CRAP! You people are retarded! All I see is post after post of some one making remarks about their weight and height! HEY FEMALES DID YOU EVER THINK THAT MAYBE THERE ARE THINGS ABOUT YOU PEOPLE SHOULD VALUE MORE THAN YOUR LOOKS!?!
    You are all missing the point, as long as society gives this much attention to the female body, there is always going to be a problem. WAKE UP! Why is all of this energy being wasted on deciding how society should judge something as superficial as physical appearance?! There are a million things that are more important in a person than how much they weigh! I am not saying we need to disregard female attractiveness but the amount of time women spend worrying about it is ridiculous! Having a healthy body should be what’s important. And by healthy I don’t mean some BMI number. I mean having a body that doesn’t interrupt how you live from day to day as reasonably possible. PLEASE just stop and actually think about this!! How much you weigh compared to other people is so trivial! I’ll even admit that because of how our society judges weight, I’d  be more willing to hire the thinner woman over the obese one but that’s not going to do sh*t if the thinner one ends up being completely incompetent!!

  • Nevermind..

    OKAY  I see a few people seem to be one the same page judging by their responses to the article, I just wish there were more . As consumers WE have the power to determine how women should be seen. But unfortunately that is not going to happen. As long as people keep buying the products that place this unreasonable amount of emphasis on female appearance over men, things won’t change..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XI635ZXZKYZ5PFZQE6HPRYKPQM Rae

    Bottom line (pardon the pun lol ) is that no matter the size, many of us have issues with our bodies.  You don’t have to be a size 20 to not be particularly fond of your thighs. I’ve been a size 24/26 and dieted and exercised down to a 10/12 — I will never be a size 6 and, barring a tummy tuck, will never have flat abs….but guess what — it’s ok.  I am what I am! My husband loves me, my kids love me, my friends love me, and sadly the only person who ever looks in the mirror and wishes she was skinnier is me.  We all have body issues whether we’re a size 0 or 20.  We need to focus on being confidant in the skin we are in and support each other.  I do think the industry promotes being a size 6 and makes being a size 14 seem like a crime against nature though….I’d like to see more reality infused into advertising because many of the women are all fantasy…airbrushed, fluffed and puffed to perfection.

  • OGH

     WHY DO YOU CARE?! WOMEN ARE MORE THAN JUST THEIR BODIES!

  • EpiqueTaii

    I agree with JanniGogolak. I am from the Caribbean also, and there we are taught to have a high value of ourselves and to be confident in who we are what what we do. We are a very proud people.

    I digress, though. I’m 5’3″ and 147lbs, but I am 34-29-41. I am very curvy as you can see, and also very densely built. . . my weight is mostly muscle, save for my hips and thighs; that’s where the fat is. But even still, I’m pretty muscular.

    I think people in this country need to stop looking at the number on the scale and start paying attention to their bodies’ subtle cues to health, and to their BMI and what they put in their stomachs. Trust me, if you take the time to listen to your body, it will tell you if you’re healthy or not. Most of the time.

    I think that the plus size model is beautiful, and I prefer curves way more than skinny-ness. That’s not to say I think skinny people are “gross” or whatever. You are who you are, I personally just prefer to see more curves on women, regardless of how small or large they are. I have a friend who is 5’0″ and 100lbs, if that, but has curves for her frame and is healthy.

    I find that the general middle area of body sizes are the most desirable to me. . . like, sizes 4 up through 14, depending on body shape. *shrugs* But that’s just me. Again, healthy is healthy.

  • Real_e231

    Put some clothes on! Dang, beautiful or not leave something to the imagination. Call me a prude, but it looks like porn to me. Ewwww, disgusting!!!

  • EpiqueTaii

    Just shut up, Pee Bee. He/she said nothing about being a poster girl for anything, nor did he/she say anything about plus sizes. He/she just said that she was a size ten and considered a sex goddess. Stop jumping the gun all the time, gosh. Respond not to what you feel, but only to what you read.

  • EpiqueTaii

    I agree with you and the comment above you. If you’re overweight, you’re overweight. . . but I just think that girls and women who aren’t overweight shouldn’t be also targeted by the media into thinking they are. . . because most of these young girls will obsess over it to the point of physical harm to be thin, and a lot of the time they will go too far because they will forever see a “fat” girl in the mirror, even if they are just skin and bones. . . I was like that for a year, but managed to stop, and now I’m a healthy size 8 (I’m 23 and 36-29-41 are my measurements. . . I have a loooot of curve in the hips and bottom, lol). I knew a lot of girls in high school who were way smaller than me (size 2′s and 4′s) who were CONVINCED that they were fat because if the media.

  • EpiqueTaii

    I know what you mean. . . even in the late 90s, I saw a girl in the movies who was the leading lady, and wasn’t a size 00. She was in a midriff, and when she sat down, there was a bit of folding of her stomach skin. NOT fat, just skin. And she was about a healthy size 4 or 6. Stomach skin naturally folds when you sit, it just does. I was actually happy when I saw that, because it was relatable to real life, real women.

    But now, they (as in the media and pop culture) see any kind of stomach folds of extra give in skin as a bad things. It’s to the point where I’ve seen tiny actresses sit down and nothing folds. I felt like I was watching a fake plastic Barbie doll that I couldn’t even take realistically. I can’t relate to any of these teeny tiny actresses and models because they’re so thin it’s literally impossible for me to be that size.

    Now, I do have some friends who are naturally tiny, who have high metabolisms, and that’s fine because even they are healthy. My one friend has always been a size 0 or 2-ish, but she has curves and is healthy. So it’s only the sickly tiny ones, the ones who are 78 lbs and have thighs the diameter of my bicep, that I have a problem with. If I feel like you may break your spine by walking down the catwalk, there’s a red flag.

  • EpiqueTaii

    That’s true. . . if a person is unhealthily skinny, usually their head looks over-sized for their bodies. That’s what I’ve noticed.

  • Faith_77_77

    I think this womans body is beatifull! If i loved my body as much as this girl i think i would set for life my problem is i hate my body and always have but this woman glows no matter her weight! she glows with beaty and every woman should have that glow!

  • Prettiinpink

    you sound like a stupid, shallow, jackass. Not to mention very judgemental. If a plus size girl is happy and comfortable with how she looks why cant she flaunt it. Who the fuck are you to say what is attractive and what is not. Like they always say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You say people dont want to see a plus size girl flaunting her baby fat well  i dont want to see a skinny girl flaunting her ribcage. Or flaunting those skinny chicken bird legs that so many of them have. And then you say guys like a girl with a fuller rack well who the fuck do you think has a fuller rack? Its plus size women you fucking shallow dipsshit. Small girls almost always have a small chest. Thats why so many of these skinny bitches get breast implants. Small girls have a small chest and if they dont have a small chest then 99.9% of the time they are fake. And you are a jackass chasing a fake dream of what a natural and real woman is. You are exactly whats wrong with society today.  Natural and real is whats beautiful not fake. Like all these bitches in hollywood who buy their breasts and buy their nose and buy the rest of their plastic body parts. People are not meant to be made out of plastic like so many of these so called beautiful women in hollywood. If we were meant to be made out of plastic we would have been made that way you shallow jackoff.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/IIODUX5NZVRY7JJKH76XOSOYE4 Elle

    Are you people serious?  It is OBVIOUS when someone is unhealthily skinny or naturally thin.  It is also OBVIOUS when a person could stand to lose a few pounds or is naturally soft or stalky.  Sadly in America we swing to both extremes. Something to consider: a lot of models are very young girls and very young girls tend to be quite skinny. Nevertheless, from what I’ve seen its obvious when skinny is healthy and natural and when it is not.

    I’m mystified as to why women or girls feel they need to look like fashion models or visa versa anyway.  Models exist to show off a designer’s clothes and tall and thin tend to do that best.  Personally, I don’t want models or movie stars to look all schlubby like me.  They represent fantasy and I live in the real world.  

    Better time would be spent teaching our girls that they are more than ornaments and that having a strong, well-nourished body and good health is true beauty.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/IIODUX5NZVRY7JJKH76XOSOYE4 Elle

    Are you people serious?  It is OBVIOUS when someone is unhealthily skinny or naturally thin.  It is also OBVIOUS when a person could stand to lose a few pounds or is naturally soft or stalky.  Sadly in America we swing to both extremes. Something to consider: a lot of models are very young girls and very young girls tend to be quite skinny. Nevertheless, from what I’ve seen its obvious when skinny is healthy and natural and when it is not.

    I’m mystified as to why women or girls feel they need to look like fashion models or visa versa anyway.  Models exist to show off a designer’s clothes and tall and thin tend to do that best.  Personally, I don’t want models or movie stars to look all schlubby like me.  They represent fantasy and I live in the real world.  

    Better time would be spent teaching our girls that they are more than ornaments and that having a strong, well-nourished body and good health is true beauty.

  • Roundelay78

     NO,dear–the truth is that MODELS and women in general are being pressured to BE thinner than before, and NO, models have NOT always been thin throughout history–hell,one French artist of the late 19th/early 20th century had nothing BUT big nude women in his paintings—he was famous—can’t recall his name right now—and also, beauty standards have NEVER remained the same, they ALWAYS change at least in this country just about EVERY decade—my point being that what was considered attractive in one era would probably not be considered attractive in another.  I read that even Marilyn Monroe, considered a beauty in her time, would be considered “fat” today,simply because she wasn’t stick-thin and actually had some hips.

    In fact, just last month, a young model in her early ’20′s was actually told that even at a size 4 (A SIZE 4,mind you) she was too “fat” to wear this particular designer’s clothes. The fact that she would look like a damn skeleton if she dropped down to a size three was apparently lost on the idiots who fired her. That shows you just HOW bad.out of control this whole obsession with being THIN has gotten everyone. I mean,seriously, how f***ing insane is that?

    Yes, people come in ALL different sizes,but let’s be for real—all the fashion designers and modeling agencies focus on/give a damn about is ONE size—anyone under 120 pounds. And the reality is, not ALL women are that size or can even maintain it forever to begin with. Hell, I weigh (last time I got weighed) about 160, which was funny to me because I didn’t look OR feel that big at all—in fact,I’ve lost a more than a few pounds since then (that was about 2 months ago) and I am still nowhere near what you call fat—but I know by the standard Hollywood or the modeling business I’m still too big. I really don’t give a damn, though. I like how I look, even though I still struggle with being comfortable about my weight versus what society says I should look like or weigh, like most women do. I’ve been exercising for years,though I’ve been slacking lately and getting back to it. Also being a black woman in a white society that considers us (black women) strange because we’re not all starving ourselves to look like stick-thin like a lot of white women and because we’re comfortable with being over 120 pounds definitely has affected my self-image,but I got over that a long time ago.

    Bottom line—all you skinny folks whining in your posts on here about how people get on you for being skinny–get this through your head—it’s NOT ABOUT YOU! It’s about how us non-skinny folks are constantly beat upside our heads with the attitude that unless you’re skinny as a damn toothpick, there’s something wrong with you for not starving yourself to death to fit into whatever standard of attractiveness happens to be in vogue at the time. I look at these Hollywood actresses who all home that same damn I’m-so-thin-you-could-hang-me-on-a-coat-hanger look and it’s sad—there IS hardly any diversity of shapes and sizes in mainstream movies,and it’s ridiculous as hell.

    Also, that dude Ayush–he sounds like some young immature dude who thinks all women ought to look like the hot chicks he sees in his fantasies or porn films,not getting the fact that they get extensive plastic surgery for all that. He needs to grow up the hell up, because most mature women wouldn’t have the time to put up with his BS childish attitude anyway.

  • Guest11

    while she is a BEAUTIFUL woman it wouldn’t hurt her HEALTH any to loose 10-20 lbs and she would probably like how she looking in the mirror a lot more. I know when I was about her size I didn’t like how I looked in the mirror and didn’t like the extra weight.

  • Roundelay78

     Honestly, the model looks very normal to me because I see women her size every day—I would hardly call her fat–hell, the average woman is her size. When I think of fat, I think of someone who weighs over 300 pounds and up (which the model obviously isn’t) she looks nice just the way she is. Apparently everyone on this board has completely different definitions of what “fat” is. All I can say is that it’s sad as hell when being barely over 120 pounds is now considered “fat”—that’s a damn shame,right there.

  • Jcsnjavon

    hello all ladies. why are we hating so much? cant everyone accept everyone for who they are. I have always been curvy never skinny and the first time i thought i was fat is after i had my child. this is my oppinion if your to skinny but natural then your fine if your way over weight and you have no ill affects to your health and your happy then your fine. and if your in between like me but all natural then your fine. i grew up taking alot of shit from lil skinnys but you know what. when i got old enough to understand most of the hate was because of jelousy. because i had a natural C cup and most skinny had A’s. piont is everyone to there own and because someone doesnt look like you doesnt give you the right to belittle the other person.

  • Buzzi

    hideously fat = bad nutrition for 85% of the time. these people should be mocked and shamed for the over indulgent pigs that they are

  • Dincruta

     You are so full of it to make me sick…. 5’6 and 195 pounds.. and youre a woman. and you claim to be healthy and fit. as if. youre just another dorito eating american pig making up feel good stories to justify your slovenly piggness

  • A Burkholder

    I am sick and tired of “obese” or “overweight” women using every kind of excuse in the book to explain their predicament. Only a fraction (1% or less) of women can attribute their inability to be thin to average size on medical reasons.  I am living proof of the bodies ability to transform itself without drugs, surgery, pills, etc.  Once I stopped blaming others for my lazy-ness, nutrition and fitness ignorance, I became healthy and fit at 6% bodyfat.  The only advertising image you have to pay attention to is the one in the mirror. Until then your “I can’t” mentality will be your character’s legacy.

  • missymeee

    What it comes down to is everyone is different and people should be more conscious of the fact that EVERYONE is going through some kind of battle. As a consistently overweight person it is EXTREMELY hard to lose weight, even with eating healthy and cutting out a lot of bad stuff. For anyone who is skinny and is trying to gain weight its essentially the same battle but in reverse. Everyone wants to be healthy, but for some it is harder than others. As an overweight person I do have to say though that it is always sickening when your “skinny” friends talk about how fat they are or that they need to gain weight. From the other side it’s not fun. But people need to be happy with themselves or surround yourself with people who are happy with you. My husband is a HUGE supporter of how I look. He has never made me feel ugly or gross for being overweight. We have worked together to both lose weight. If I had someone around who told me I was overweight or ugly all the time then they would be cut out immediately. Again, though, everyone goes or is going through a battle…be conscious of that.

  • Honey73022002

    Am I the only one that thinks the plus size model is hot??? I saw the pictures and I thought the plus size model was sirloin, and the thin model……….. bacon strips. Bottom line: We should definitely show our young girls more of what is realistic in this world. If your naturally thin that’s beautiful too, but me personally I’ve seen enough of the anorexic, airbrushed models. I welcome the tasteful model above on a mag cover. But unfortunately I doubt that will happen.

  • Amanda

    I think it goes both ways. Some people strive so hard to be “skinny” but others try to just be physically fit, which can be a small body. But on the other hand, saying it’s okay to weigh 200 pounds and eat cheeseburgers, fries, refined flours, white sugars, foods high in saturated fats, and low quality processed foods isn’t right either. Being healthy should be the most important thing to anyone. Your weight doesn’t matter at all, but the foods that you eat. Everyone knows it, food sizes in america have tripled what they once were. Servings have grown and it is now acceptable to eat meals that have +2000 calories in one sitting. This isn’t right! 

  • http://africanmangosupreme.com/ Kellee Thorton

    There’s no mention of the weight of the average woman 20 years ago as compared to now.

  • Anonymous

    Tight ass>sloppy flabby ass

  • Mary

    I think the point here is that not all models should either be plus size or skinny, they should just be their natural healthy size… whether  it is skinny or slightly plumper.

  • Catpla504

    i think its funny how the (skinny) people are getting there feeling hurt by a few little words like sickly but over weight people get called a whole lot worse and thats ok if everybody would keep there hurtful words to them selfs the world would be alot better off

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, fuck you.

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  • Dfddd

    No, you people ARE right. It is healthy for a woman to be going through menopause in her twenties. No, this is healthy. It is perfectly natural and healthy to become infertile in your late teens to early twenties due to malnutrition. Skinny is beauty! Of course you have to use external lubrication because of the dehydration. Oh, and nothing is as sexy as curling up to a skeleton. Also, if you have breasts, they really should be made of silicone. I mean a breast filled with fat?! Ugh! They should be stretched out of your taut skin into two perfect spheres. That’s what I like to see. A whole rack of ribs suddenly meeting a perfectly circular boob, that’s how you can tell there’s nothing but silicone in there, hot! Besides, babies are for fatties. No pretty girl would ever do something as hideous as reproduce, so here’s to making sure they can’t! Still menstruating girls? Stop eating so much, fatties! If you’re still fertile, you’re too fat.

  • James

     10 plus months of aprox. 40 double cheese burgers a month, as well as about 2 liters of soda a day, and loads of other bad foods, and this 5’11” 180 lbs males has perfect cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. It’s more about your weight and your muscle / fat ratio than what you eat. A nutrition professor went on a all ‘Little Debbie’s” diet, eating nothing but sugary snacks, but regulated his calories in order to lose weight. Result: lower cholesterol. Lower weight = lower cholesterol; studies show it is the single biggest risk factor. I can eat 5,000 calories of junk food a day, and do, (allbeit high-protein junk food like cheeseburgers) because I am a manual laborer, and so I get arms like the michelin man’s, instead the belly.

  • Prettydarklady

     I love how you’re proud of your body, but if a fat person is proud of their body they get nothing but dirty looks and harassment.

    Everyone just needs to love the skin THEY are in and stop being so damn concerned with everyone else, in MY opinion.

  • Lisa

    I got halfway in to reading everyone’s comments, when I just stopped. Being fat or skinny in my personal opinion is half genetics, and half what you eat. 
     
    a thought though, if you take notice to the add, does the female labled “plus size” look ginormous to you? Maybe when you compare her to the girl standing beside her, but compared to the vast majority of westernized women, she pretty normal sized. Probably wear a size 10 or 12. My point though is that the conversations can go on forever, and everyone an keep comparing themselves, and taking everything to seriously. Heck the people who write the articles already had extremely biased opinions, but most people commenting are letting their opinions bother you

    But just for heck sake, I’m 26 years old, and when I was younger, I would eat like a child starving in a third world country, and I would not gain an ounce of wait, but after I passed 21, I started noticing when I ate, I would actually start to gain weight. apparently my metabolism slowed. when I was lets say 18, I was 116 pounds at 5’7 and ‘now at 26 I’m still 5’7 and I weigh 145 pounds. Does that mean I’m overweight?

  • xoAnnie

    Dincruta — isn’t it possible she just takes care of her body? A woman can easily be 5’6 and 195 pounds, and be pretty damn buff. Women CAN have muscles. Who are you to say what she is? You can’t really come out and call someone a “dorito-eating American pig” when you’ve never looked at her. It’s just another stereotypical overgeneralization. Clearly, she’s a much more beautiful person than you for all that she’s said. Do you eat Doritos, Dincruta? I’ll bet you’ve at least tried them . . . and if you’re also American, that just makes you a hypocrite. Maybe you said what you said because you’re ashamed of yourself. Maybe not. Either way, there are some Americans who actually take good care of themselves. She just might be one of them. Also, learn how to use proper punctuation and grammar. Good day. 

  • Jenniebrooks

    I am not skinny, thin, or slim.  I never overeat.  I am big boned and have been that way since age 12 or 13.  I know I don’t look good with my clothes off.  5’5 and 155 pounds.   I am healthy, not in the way I look, but my body is healthy.    I don’t eat Snickers and usually pass on the fries.    I wish society didn’t judge women so harshly, but as long as there are cute, slim young women, I guess we’ll all be judged accordingly.  Imagine if men’s looks were judged by what their bodies looked like at 18 or even 25.  I, for one will find other ways to be happy with myself.  Looks are not everything.  Though TV and Internet would have us believe they are.

  • Rubypoet

     I understand where you are coming from perfectly, as for years, until two yrs ago(!) I was 5.8″, weighing 115, not unhealthy, but wee bit too thin to look truly grand at age 50!  Now, @ 58, I finally gained 20 lbs and NOW I look truly terrific and healthy! A SMART Lady once told me, there would come a day when I’d choose between my face and my hips! I laughed (at 30ish) and thought yeah, right! But that day came upon me unexpectedly and boy, was she ever right!  It’s taken me some time to get used to being size 8 and/or Medium when I was forever a small, but it’s so comfortable and fantastically healthy looking, I (and my 16 yr younger 15 year long boyfriend/S.O./BEST FRIEND) just love the way I look NOW*!* Enjoy your bodies, no matter what, I’d only add, be healthy above all else, because that’s the one thing Money can not by and life can not sacrifice*!* Rebecca in AZ

  • Anonymous

    I think the point of the article was that modeling is a profession
    that requires even their plus size models to meet a standard that does not
    completely reflect the overall or average person in the United States.  Before the mudslinging started, people should have asked the most pertinent questions. 

    Why would this bother me and how can this perception be different?  Quickly people went on the defensive justifying their height and weight.  The truth is that
    medically the old standards of how they calculate BMI and what constitutes obesity
    need to change.

    Realistically, looking too fat or too skinny does not equate to healthy and even looking healthy does not equate to that anymore either. If we keep looking outwardly to define beauty and health than we are defiantly at a loss as a society, don’t get me wrong! It’s nice is to have pretty things, but when we look at these tabloids and magazines we are not looking solely at recipes and articles.  We look at the pictures! 

    Children are taught, learn, and retain in many different ways. 

    So even if you want to teach your child that these things are not important the reality is that everyone else, even you, and even I am  showing her or him something
    different.  Men and Women are affected by what they see, that may never completely change!  We do not know what people have or are going through or even if they like being the way they are.  So instead of concentrating so much on
    pictures and taking the words of the article out of context the point which is
    the most important thing is being healthy and seeing ourselves as healthy and
    normal no matter the size!

    Name calling does not start or finish a dialog; it does the opposite as you can see above.  It maintains an unhealthy line of communication and offers no reasonable conclusion; the children that read these comments will in turn have another justification as to why this is important, which creates more image issues.

  • http://twitter.com/kruppk63 Hans solo

    Thats a hot bish

  • Lola

    I think the issue is that there’s no balance in society. (Sorry for making this so general, btw I don’t mean this for everyone!) Most people are either to overweight or underweight. Obesity is a huge problem and many people are unhealthily overweight, but it’s more fashionable to be super skinny (im talking like anorexic here). I have a friend who used to be a model, and she was absolutely miserable. They told her to eat hardly anything, the didn’t want her to have any muscle, so eventually she quit because she was becoming anorexic (unwillingly). I also have a friend who became bulimic because she thought she was fat, even though she’s considered petite and she is much smaller than everyone else. Of course some people are naturally thin or some people (like me) are on the curvier side. But when I see a picture of Marilyn Monroe (the sexiest woman alive at that time), I think “It’s sad because even though she’s so gorgeous and curvy, nowadays she’d be considered ‘Plus sized’.” I think its ok to be bigger or smaller, as long as that’s your natural body. I’ve always been slightly bigger and I’ll never be skinny, but still I work out and eat well. People just need to forget about size, and focus on being healthy, because if your healthy and you exercise, your perfect body weight will come naturally. 

  • Lola

    You’re absolutely right! people get so obsessed over the number, when really all that matters is being healthy and happy with yourself. My sister is a marathon runner, and she’s 160 but she looks like she’s 130. That’s because she has so much muscle. I also find being extremely healthy more beautiful than size. Our bodies are incredible, and it makes me sad to see people not using them. I used to be overweight, but I started working out and I love it so much now. I’m curvy, and I’ll never be ‘skinny’ but I’m comfortable with how I look and feel. 

  • Lola

    Who the hell are you to say what’s acceptable? I don’t care if you have a freaking god complex, you have NO RIGHT to tell anyone what they should look like. Also, your acting like it’s either fat or skinny. There’s a cool little thing called BALANCE. Who have no idea what’s normal because human bodies are all different. My sister is 160 lbs. but she’s a marathon runner, so her doctor (a real one) told her she needs to GAIN weight. You have every right to voice your opinion, but you have no right to tell people how to live, and to be so incredibly rude about it too. You’re not some kind of god. It’s because of people like you judging everyone that people like my best friend feel like they need to throw up everything they eat just to feel beautiful in the eyes of others. It makes me sick. Instead of telling people to be skinny so a couple shallow ass guys will check them out, maybe you should be encouraging people to be HEALTHY. Because if you’re healthy, you may not be skin and bones, but you won’t be obese either. BALANCE dude. Add it to your vocabulary. 

  • Miranda

    Well, I loved the spread! It really reps the voices of us girls, teenage girls, young women, and women that aren’t the sizes of those in the magazines, fashion shows, and even TV. The media’s presentation is such a distorted view of much of society’s women.

  • Atsirk Zuta

    You know what, you’re right.  We should stop picking on the skinny people.  They get picked on all the time.  Poor poor skinny people, always getting rejected because people think they are too skinny.  Poor poor skinny people, having to eat more and more delicious food because it just won’t stick to them.  Now those fat people who work out all the time and still don’t lose weight, how do they do it?  They’re so lucky that the food sticks to them.  Especially those ones with thyroid problems.  They don’t have to worry about looking like models out there.  Poor skinny people.  So much has been done to make skinny people feel bad about themselves and these fat people just get told they’re perfect all the time.  

    No one told you to hide away.  Are you on an advertisement surrounded only by people who look like you that says “a fit for every body” but only represents one?  Your body is represented.  No one cares.  People are upset because theirs is not.  This is not just obese people or unhealthy, it is people who are healthy but have curves that are not represented.  No one should feel bad for you.  People with perfectly good parents develope eating disorders because, GUESS WHAT, they might enjoy a nice meal too but every time they eat they get further and further from looking like you, regardless of how much they try to outrun people.  

    Asking people to feel bad for you because you are represented and they are not is just stupid.  

  • Anonymous213

    Lrichards510, I look and weight about the same as the skinny model. I don’t starve myself and I try to eat as much as I can to put on some extra weight. However, reality is that I have the thin gene and that’s the way my body and is meant to be. Calling it hideous is same as calling the other model fat. Both aren’t good for society. Don’t be a double standard, please.

  • Mike B

    What is sad about this article is the amount of spelling and grammar errors from all the comments posted. 

    If both models want a happy sex life for the rest of their lives, I would recommend the smaller model to gain 5-10 pounds, and the bigger one to loose about 20. 

    Peace out

  • Larkwoodgirl

    I think this woman is beautiful exactly the way she is. 

  • britlives

    this article isnt about how skinny or fat someone is, its about exposing whats going on in this international thinking EVERYONE has on physical appearance. a person(male or female) can weigh 200 or more and still live a very healthy lifestyle. height, weight, diet, genetics and habits all come into play with this. if people want change then change yourself, who gives a damn what other people think; skinny, tall, short, fat, chunky, thick, etc…you are who you are and you have to accept it. if you dont like it, then do something about it and forget the rest. period.

  • Aleeftheartchic

    I want to say there are a lot of small minded individuals on here.   I think there were many over-generalizations here. Not all skinnies are gross, not all fat chics are gross, not all skinnies starve themselves nor do all fat chics gorge. I think those who are criticizing large women are small minded. I think that the one who made the comment about looking at youtube for videos from the 60′s 70′s and what not needs to pick up a book. Maybe a book that shows what is called art. lol See it can be a kind of a visual history of what women have looked like since idk prehistory. Ever hear if the venus of Willendorf? It seems to me that there are all sizes of women that naturally exist and only one type that is represented. Also the models started notably shrinking in the 60′s. Smart guy.  So ya the last victoria Secret add i saw is an example of gross and skinny in the media. Ribcages protruding is not healthy nor natural.  But i know that very skinny can be natural but so can curvy so can stick figure. I think this model up there is gorgeous. I think that all women should be represented.  I am an artist and i focus on the female body and how it has been represented . So i would call myself a expert lol I have butt tons of info on this subject but i really hope women like Bunny Lefluf will open a book and gain some knowledge for them selves. Honestly girl you sicken me among others here. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/yasmine.djaid Yasmine Djaid

    Wow….. and so in ten years, some healty women will eat as shit to look «healty»? why not just teach them to eat until they’re not hungry and that it, and then tey’ll look good the way they’ll be (wich is true). Because i’m fucking over hearing people bashing on skinny girl to make the others feel better. We are healty too even if we’re skinny. Stop thinking we don’t have feeling just because we don’t have fat! I would never insult an other girl because of how big or small she is, but every day some girl look at me and tell me i’m anorexic because i don’t gain weight, and i’m sick of this. Stop telling us we don’t eat enough, stop telling us we look like we’re starving. Just mind your own business and concentrate on loving YOURSELF the way you are without always comparing.
    Oh, and of course, if a girl tell me i’m a monster for saying i actually think skinny girls a pretty everyone will like her comment and encourage her to diss other people but just imagine what would happend if i tell a bigger girl that maybe she should start a diet or exercice………. yeah, that it. So bassicly, i’ve got to say i’m fucking weird and ugly cuz i starve myself to death and then all these people will be happy. Do you even realise that you’re just trying to switch thing around? And then you’ll have millions of little girls wondering how come i don’t get weight?

    Oh, and one last thing to these bigger girls that always complains: you can easely decide that you’ll be the prettiest, just believe in yourself. And don’t forget, as much as i have the flat stomach, you’re the one with the boobs!!!!! So why can’t you start seeing that every girl could be ugly or pretty without have a typical body type.

    And stop baching the small girl. Let them be too, they’re not all bitches that deserves to be dished and pointed as horror!

    For Mr Guest: Who said i’m not gonna eat you’re fat? Guess what, i’m probably more flexible and in better shape. So in case of famine, i’ll fucking eat you first!

     and for Mr Atsirk Zuta: So what i’m luckier than you? And you think that because you’re fat you’re that poor thing that can say whatever the fuck they want on other and laugh at them in their face? So you don’t feel bad for people like us and i even see that you actually like the fact that we’re getting insulted. Poor fucking thing to big to fit! I’m too small to fit you fucking idiot. i’m very small and very thin. I’ve NEVER SEEN models of my height and MOST of the stores dont even sell my size because of people like you considering 00 not normal. And so you see me bashing on taller girls? But i could easely say that most girls are smaller than model. And if you saw a «regular» size next to me you’ll realise it’s even more difficult for me. Cuz if you think plus size is rare, try to find 000, just to see. And there is NO STORE for me. Even my bras don’t quite fit me because they’re to big. You’re just beeing a jealous and a hater that uses this as a way to bash on people. oh, and just by the way, not every woman look like a plus size model either! What do you expect?

  • Jennoyed

    Yes, we all weep over your tragic plight of strangers expressing concern over how you look instead of disgust. You suffer the hardship of always being able to buy your clothes on sale at high end stores, which always stock too much 0-8 and not enough 12-14. You have to suffer the dignity of driving behind a college kid with no body shaming bumper stickers while your plus size counterparts stare at “No fat chicks ” through red lights. You are stuck buying cute bras in multiple fabrics with delicate straps rather than the giant boulder holder travesties sold in white or nude nylon. You have your pick of trendy outfits rather than clothes manufactured by tarp and tent designers. Before you pull out your favorite self pity trump card of how you can’t get fatter no matter how hard you try, while overweight people can just diet and exercise,google PCOS. Try having a hormone disorder where your body fights every attempt to lose fat while being judged like you’re secretly hoarding twinkies.

    I realize being naturally thin has its challenges but you should keep in mind it’s challenging the way being straight, white, or pretty is “challenging.”

  • Anonymous

    Hey these ads is what advertisers and some in the media say people want to see. 

  • Ebony

    OMG none of you are seeing the point here. You are all being selfish and not seeing the point here. If you are behind the scenes you would see what the models go thru to become and maintain a size 0-2. It also has a deeper meaning. In schools now kids are being critized for their weight (AND NOT THE SMALL ONES!) The big ones are and they grow up with trust issues and self esteem problems if they arent bullied to death by the society who chooses whats perfect! Now stop being so selfish and inconsiderate and think of someone other than yourselves! It sickens me! This articled didn’t get 8 pages to say Skinny is ugly, it has it to say big is beautiful! Its an inspirational article not a bashing article!

    #GetOverYourselves!

  • Ebony

    and also to add. If your naturally small than thats cool… THATS YOU!!! and its beautiful but the fact is people who arent your size couldnt get a modeling job unless they try REALLY hard! Everyone is beautiful but no one deserves to be hurt because they arent like you

  • http://twitter.com/Twiddle723 MaryAnn

    A healthy body should be the goal. Eating right, exercising. The modeling industry caters to the fashion industry which has always catered towards men and how they want to see women dressed. When the fashion industry starts catering to real women, with real bodies then we’ll see the modeling industry change. Not before.

  • rss

    overweight is not good

  • danyal

    i Love u sexy laid

  • Macy

    There are still medium people that exist in the world! I am sick and tired of the world being divided between size 0 and size 18. Yes, a lot of women are size 18, but that isn’t usually healthy. Yes, if you are very tall it can be healthy, and regardless of health it can still be pretty. Same with size 0s. Most people aren’t healthy at that size, but some are, and you can still be pretty even if not healthy. Size 4-10 is healthy for most women; those are the sizes I would want to see in a magazine more often, and with this 6-14 stuff we’re at least seeing a little of it. Being heavier or lighter than someone doesn’t necessarily mean you’re prettier, or better, or your life is easier.

  • Macy

    Thank you! As someone who is skinny but has curves, this is much appreciated. I am tired of the misuse of the word curvy.

  • Macy

    Comments like this are rude and sickening. Yes, lots of people have thyroid problems, and it isn’t their fault. You can be beautiful at any size, skinny or heavy. She is not asking you to feel sorry for her. She is only asking you not to attack her with rudeness like you just did. Someone’s size doesn’t dictate how easy their life is. You know what? I have a very high metabolism. I faint in school all the time, and I can’t travel much because of the time between meals that I can’t handle. I don’t get bullied for my weight, but I get bullied for other things. I get that you’re just trying to say your body wasn’t represented, but let’s just hope your personality isn’t represented because it’s not looking very beautiful right now.

  • Macy

    You know what? I am skinny too, skinny with curves. It is NOT easy for me to find clothes. I can spend three hours in a store and find nothing, and I range anywhere from a size 2-14. I can’t buy cute bras, they don’t come in my size. I faint all of the time because of my metabolism and my busy schedule- I eat as much as I can, but since the school won’t allow me to eat before lunch I faint whenever I can’t sneak snacks. I’m sorry for your hormone disorder, and that you’re being judged, only, who is judging you here? She did not judge you. I did not judge you. You are judging every single skinny person in the world. Do you know what I weep over? The tragic plight of you being so hypocritical. Also, just because you are thin doesn’t mean the rest of your life is easy – maybe people judge you because you’re rude, not overweight.

  • Macy

    That’s not true. Being proud of your body when you are overweight is something you will be praised for. If you are skinny and proud of your body, you will be called conceited.

  • Macy

    Anorexia is actually far more dangerous than obesity…however, you are right about the numbers.

  • Macy

    I am MUCH bigger than a D cup and I am considered underweight. That does not make me obese.

  • Macy

    While I agree with you about Ayush being stupid and shallow, you are being shallow too by saying “I don’t want to see a skinny girl flaunting her ribcage. or flaunting those skinny chicken bird legs that so many of them have.” You are both equally shallow and should be ashamed because plus sized girls are beautiful and skinny girls are beautiful too. Also, I’m a small girl with a big chest and it is not fake, it is genetic. And guess what? Two of my ribs show. Throw me in jail for being proud of my body, will you?

  • Macy

    Learn to spell. Also, the few women that fit your standards are not interested in you. Actually, no woman is interested in you because you are so shallow. No one cares what you have to say if everything you say is ignorant.

  • Macy

    Thank you! Couldn’t have said it better!

  • Macy

    I have to eat junk food to not faint, and I am very healthy (just a little underweight but my doctor says it’s fine). That’s because I exercise well…if you exercise well, you don’t have to live a life of eating salads.

  • Macy

    Umm…there are people who are as skinny as those models who have been told by DOCTORS that they are healthy. “Underweight” can be healthy. I’m “underweight” and my doctor says I am very healthy.

  • Macy

    What she said is that underweight is unhealthy, and that is not always true. Of course it is an unhealthy standard. So is being overweight.

  • Macy

    Actually, it can be healthy. You can be overweight or underweight and be healthy, depending on your physical needs, and if you don’t believe me, please get real medical knowledge.

  • Macy

    Actually, the normal people there are not model skinny, not quite. I’ve been. They’re thin, but not bony like that. Typical model weight would be unhealthy for most. Average american weight is also unhealthy for most people. In between is what’s healthy.

  • Macy

    It is not half genetics, half what you eat…exercise is actually more important than diet.

  • Carolyn

    One of thee most gorgeous women I’ve ever had the pleasure to look at in a photo shoot or on ANY red carpet……of ANY kind!!!…..am completely straight but this plus size model is an absolute jaw-dropping stunning beauty……healthy, curvy, sexy, confident….and is thee epitomy of femininity, elegance, beauty, and I would be thrilled to have her represent and be the new comparative for what is “sexy”, as she most certainly is!!! BRAVO!!!!! Take the hint fashion world…..if you TRULY want to make the billions (or beyond), which have clearly clouded your judgement in cloning out these waif thin models of late….appeal to ‘real’ women…..(and no I do not mean size 20 ladies as I’m sorry but that’s just not healthy……just as striving to be a size 0 is killing our young girls)….but its time to get real about who and what is REAL!!!….and its NOT the creepy anorexic bodies you keep trying to “force feed” us!!!! You want our money….WORK for it and sell to ME!!!! Signed… a proud size 12!! :-) Carolyn

  • Carolyn

    ….actually no….correction…. i go back and forth between 12 and 14….and no offence to bigger girls, as we all struggle in our own way….but there’s such thing as unhealthy small AND unhealthy big….hugs to all of every size however xo :-)

  • Varika

    Macy, if you are in America, then to solve your fainting issue, you go to your doctor and get a note that says you have a medical condition that requires the snacks, and you take it to the school office, and then if they don’t allow you to have the snacks, you have legal options because they are violating Federal laws. But you have to have that note.

  • varika

    There’s a difference between being obese, being unhealthy, and being plus-size. There are a I LOT of women who are plus-size because they are tall and proportionally larger, while still having practically no body fat on them. The plus-size model in this ad is probably healthier than you are, and I’m not sure she qualifies as “obese” without knowing a whole lot more about her.
    And, logically speaking, if the average person has gotten drastically larger, and the clothes are being made for the average person, should not the models ALSO be getting larger?

  • Varika

    This particular spread has been photographed to make the thin model look as unattractive as possible. In the standing pose, she is standing directly perpendicular to the camera, with her arm tilted back, while the plus-size model is in a much more visually flattering pose, showing more of her body. Body profiles seldom have the proportions people expect to see, no matter what your weight is, and the arm being drawn back that way flattens the bosom and the ribcage further, draws the skin tight over the ribcage at the chest, and with the leg cocked that way, causes the hipbodne to protured further than it ordinarily does, which only heightens the contrast.

    In the laying-down pose, about a third of the thin model’s body is hidden, making her look even skinnier than she is, while the plus-size model’s body had more hidden but at the same time more implied to be there, more closely matching the expectations. Additionally, the arm held in the thin model’s position stretches the upper arm muscle out to its thinnest, which gives the brain the visual cue that the thin model must HAVE less to her body than she should. In this one also, the position has been carefully calculated to cause the hipbone to protrude prominently, making the waist look tinier, too.

    Finally, the protective stance of the plus-size model, even to the fact that the thin model’s face is hidden by the plus-size model, give the impression that the thin model is fragile, and with the other visual miscues, that she is unhealthily skinny.
    Overall, this is an amazingly clever piece of propaganda. I personally like the majority of the message that is being sent, particularly as this was the general standard of beauty up until the 20th century (and don’t even start about corsets with me, most of what you know about corsets is probably wrong, thanks to some fine propaganda work in the early 20th century)–a woman with enough flesh on her to be voluptuous. I would like to say to the ad agency, keep up the good work, and keep putting out more like this, but don’t take it as far as the modelling industry has for the opposite message–it should be just as fine to be naturally skinny as it is to be naturally plump.

  • Collen Shumate

    Last night, she stepped out for the inscrutably named Escape to Total Rewards
    event in New York in a see-through barely-black dress, the back of
    which featured lace paneling and the front of which appeared to be
    covered with a froth of ruffled ivory fabric.

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  • weloveskinnygirls

    Thin one looks good, fat one needs to lose weight…personal taste as there are some ~Chubby Chasers~ !!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=634906943 Den Eice

    I think she looks fabulous and is simply keeping it real. =:o)

  • Miravaliv

    Very well said! The bottom line is the percentage of women are not 0-10 in size. I find it quit irritating to look through a catalog and try to figure out what will look good on my 12-14 figure when the people modeling, even in plus size mags are wearing something much smaller. At least represent all of us women. We come in all sizes and shapes, not to critize any, because women are simply beautiful no matter what, but I would love to see us all represented in ads.

  • http://twitter.com/Arthurknight Michael J

    I see nothing wrong with the pictures.These are beautiful women and the pictures are beautiful.

  • Michi

    Hey, you know what guys? I am 5’6″ and every bit of 290 pounds! I have a baby who is a healthy 5 months old. I love my body!!!!

  • a17yearold

    The point of this article is that girls get to much pressure to be thin. I am skinny, and can’t fit in most clothing. I do not starve myself, I am 5’7 and weigh 103 and I am healthy. I do not exercise often, I eat healthy though but lots of food. Skinny girls also get made fun of and have it hard, I hate how so many think bigger people have it hard and skinny girls have it easy. Skinny girls can have it hard too. I get bullied and called anorexic, people say “nothing to see there” and I can’t gain any weight. I can’t buy the clothing I like, the clothing I like requires big breasts, curves, which I do not have. Ads should have skinny and big girls in them together, not the two separate as there is not one size that represents all women. There is not enough clothing sizes for big and skinny girls too. I am skinny and rarely find clothing that fits me. We should be taught that if the size we are is healthy for our own body type, then we are beautiful. We shouldn’t be taught that you are either beautiful at size 2 or size 12. If you are healthy, you are beautiful in my opinion, no matter your size.

  • Jennie

    All you guys talking about health are missing the point. Maybe the bigger one eats too much and is unhealthy, and maybe the smaller one eats too little and is unhealthy. But neither of them are ugly. We should promote good health and teach people to exercise and eat well–but NOT by calling them ugly! It’s well proven that shame is NOT conducive to change. You do not start being healthier by hating yourself. And weight is far too subjective to be a measure of health in most cases. I remember when I first had hyperthyroidism, I ate like a cow and lost 15 pounds. When I got on medication, I had zero appetite and hardly ate a thing, and gained 25. And to all of you saying “metabolism diseases” are rare–they’re not. A huge percentage of women have thyroid problems at some point in their lives, and those who don’t will still have massively differing thyroid function (metabolism). There is a big range of normal, which is why plenty of healthy women end up with totally different metabolisms. It’s not calories in, calories out. That’s a myth. Yes, strive to be healthy, because you’ll be happier and live longer–not because you may lose some weight. And don’t pretend you can judge someone else’s health by their weight.

  • Yaz

    THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST COMMENT HERE.

  • Reuben_had_it_right

    The “plus” sized model has a body that I wish all women aspired to have. What a figure. I love the belly. So great to put your arms around. The buttocks? Whew! Those legs! I’m melting. Women should have curves, men; angles. Men are by nature born to respond to the curvature of a woman’s body. Women are by nature born with extra body fat that gives them… Ok, nothing new here. The slim model has the figure of a young boy. Not appealing (to me) at all.

  • http://twitter.com/rewith85man Ernest DeBrew III

    Dang, those pictures were hot.

    I love the closeness between the thin and overweight women.

  • celia azul

    So sad society have pushed our young women into harming their bodies. The plus size woman looks lush, fertile and dare I say sexy, If I were a man this would be the woman I would want on my arm, In some of the poses the plus size model looks almost protectave of her counter part.

  • Fatima

    I think that this photo-spread isn’t exactly a negative thing. Sure, some people are naturally skinny and to them, such images and captions could be slightly hurtful.
    But anorexia is also predominant in today’s world, and is a harsh reality, particularly because the media portrays a skinny, pretty woman as the ‘ideal’ instead of showing that everyone can be perfectly happy and beautiful in their own bodies. This refreshing photo-spreads show that this can be true as well, and for that I applaud them.

    Remember; the intention of the photo-spread is NOT to make naturally skinny girls/models feel bad about skinny, but to make naturally curvy, beautiful women realize that they shouldn’t feel bad about being curvy :)

  • skittlerancher18

    FUCK YOU. curvy people arent represented ???? beyonce, kim kardashian,
    jlo. are u BLIND ? i was watching the wendy williams show afew days ago
    and she said something about mariah carey’s weight in her “honey” video
    being too thin….and the whole audience agreed and clapped when she
    mentioned mariah’s curves now. plently of skinny people know what it
    feels like to be rejected for being too thin, especially in the black /
    latino community where its about being “thick” and having tits and ass.
    NEWSFLASH ! — “skinny bitches” are a minority now, and we all know
    minorities get picked on the most. no matter what you are, people ALWAYS
    think the grass is greener on the other side, but guess what..ITS NOT.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=804028761 Demary Fernandes

    Hummmmm… interesting !!!

  • dd
  • dutchess85

    I think the plus size model looks very beautiful.

  • Arisu

    Some of you just don’t get it! It’s totally fine if you are naturally skinny (like I am), it became a problem when you get obsessed with it and make unhealthy things to stay that way or even worse you start to think that you need to loose more and more weight when you were already thin.

  • Shelley

    I get the whole thing about models not representing average women, but I have to admit, I don’t like to look at “plus-size” models. I want to see the ideal, even if it’s unattainable and airbrushed. This fat model looks too much like me (in the body shape, not the face–she’s far prettier than me), and I certainly wouldn’t want to take pictures of myself naked. What’s wrong with the fantasy?

  • Pri

    All there really is to say is that more fat people are made fun of for being fat than skinny people are for being skinny. So many people have told me I am fat but no one ever tells my sister who is stick skinny that she is too skinny. People should just be happy with what they look like. Being fat in this world is much worse than being skinny. With every model and person one tv practically under size 6 I feel fat even though I am a size 8-10. Plus more guy prefer skinny girls to fat girls. This magazine issue was for people to feel good about how they look but instead all these skinny people tell us that they have it way worse. Which in my opinion is not true. Would you rather be fat? I don’t think so.

  • crzygrlwa

    All I know is the plus-size one is frickin’ HOT!!!

  • derby

    I am a 40 yr old women with three daughterswho are all differnt shapes. One curvy and short and cute with a bubble butt, one taller and heavy with belly fat and one with long legs and thin. they are all beautiful in their own way and we suffer in differnt ways each time shopping for school clothes! all three want to look like the beautiful “skinny” models that they see in the magazines and truth is.. they may never be that! it is hurtul and harmful for young girls to have to constantly wish and mourn the fact that the’y may never be pretty enough because they dont look lke these models. I work in the hair and beauty industry and I see beauty everyday in many dfferent ways. We shouldnt have to fit into a cookie cutter mold of what is acceptable to be be beautiful..It hurts my heart for my girls

  • motonta

    1. Thanks for showing this 2. last pic is so compassionate – like a mother holding child; even tho no bones show on thin model, she looks thin 2 my gf who is close size/height to plus model and FINALLY sees that her own belly can look good to me, bc she says the plus model belly looks good to her! no wat she said? “oh, she has a belly like me and she looks good” Amazing…

  • Tricia

    Everyone trying to fight about this “im naturally skinny vs to skinny”. Grow up. If your a healthy weight then you have no say in any of it. Pay attention to facts. Models are 23% skinner then average and have such an unhealthy weight it is calculated as anorexic. The point of this is to show our models don’t depict the society in the way they should.

  • Trying to Help

    @jinies: Maybe you should learn a bit of grammar and spelling before throwing out the “idiot” insults; not only is it hypocritical, but that along with name-calling negates any mature credibility you may have had. Just some constructive criticism, entirely for your benefit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rmarieward Rhonda Ward

    ok i read a lot of comments on here about skinny vs fat. let’s just start with my body according to doctor and their stupid scales i am considered obese my family doctor told me not to trust it cause bmi doesn’t take in consideration of my breast size which is abnormally large for my body size. i am only 5’3 with 33 M-P cup depend on style, with muscular legs. i have been taunted since i was little when i was skinny and breastless etc considered fat then i started developing so i got taunted with cow pig even Dolly Parton the second whale etc…all kinds of names. for years i dieted trying to lose weight never realizing i was at a normal weight that all i did was mess up my body that i ended up gaining weight and destroyed my blood now i have two blood disorders from trying to lose weight. my mom is naturally skinny she can eat chips every day and not gain any weight she can eat three meals a day and lose weight but she eats one meal a day she will gain some weight but never get overweight. i am tired of hearing people bash either side. i am considered curvy, hourglass shape. i am tired of hearing how people bash ”skinny people’ to me skinny people are people who are anorexia and u know what they look like they look sick boney and ready to drop dead…i don’t mean the healthy skinny type who don’t look like they are going to drop dead..i have seen both sides and seen how skinny healthy people eat. my cousin for instance all she eats is vegetables and fruits and no meat…everyone worried about her cause she is too skinny she was healthier before now she is too skinny. then i have a friend who doesn’t eat much but is considered obese and she is big real big but she has the best personality and strength of any person i know and it hurts to have people judge her when she wanted to go dancing…i thought we are supposed to encourage activities but instead she got pointed at etc…that made her stop going dancing…and gain more weight cause of people pointing it out …so how are people supposed to get healthy if the skinny/unhealthy and skinny/healthy people make fun of people cause seriously its those people that make fun of us majority of them are the ones who do so not the fat people not the obese people not the curvy people…so really get a grip on reality i know reality i have seen it on all sides for everyone…Media doesn’t help but you encourage the media cause they know you will read their controversial shit.

  • mkc

    THANK YOU. I’m a size 6, 36 DDD, 25-25 1/2 inch waist, i believe I am curvy, a larger woman once told me i looked the way i did because i didn’t eat and that she would never want to loose any weight because she loved her “curves”.
    i never knew until that moment that in todays society “curves” were equivalent to rolls and love handles.

  • mkc

    anorexia kills young women faster, but is not more fatal in terms of death per year or suffers who die as a result of their disease than obesity. Then again obesity is rather suggestive and many people who aren’t obese, but overweight die of diet related disease and are just not as heavy.

  • mkc

    Not true, just walking on the street and once at a dinner party when i was younger i was told,unsolicited advice by the way, by more than one photographer and a head hunter for fashion label that “you would be perfect if you were 5’10″ apparently that is the magic number, i am 5’6 and couldn’t care less, i’m a practicing physician i don’t have to be a supermodel in this lifetime as well.

  • mkc

    I don’t believe everyone is beautiful. Everyone CAN be kind, caring, considerate, smart, intuitive, and wonderful, all great qualities. But physical beauty is so subjective and usually people we find to be physically beautiful are healthy, in shape, with no genetic abnormalities and have a symmetrical face, the entire point of beauty is sexual attractiveness that we may find partners to reproduce with, so biologically speaking most people find the same things beautiful, media has distorted this in all different kind of ways but biology prevails in most arenas. As far as everyone being beautiful i know for a fact that there is a reason i get more date offers (happily married), job offers, free favors – that i turn down, and other perks is because i’m better looking than many other women. period. No one know I’m a physician, that Im a generally nice person, have a good disposition or love animals just by looking at me, they only know of my attractiveness so this idea of beauty being on the inside makes no sense, considering that many people don’t bother to get to know you if you have a homely face or a god forbid a disfigurement, I’m not saying that this is right and i try not to live by biases but people should really stop equating physical beauty (not very important) and inherent value as human being (very important)
    Also not all body types are beautiful to me. I never point fingers and laugh at heavier people, i try not to judge them (its very hard sometimes but it helps to reflect on my on varied flaws instead of the flaws of others) and i don’t put anyone down or exclude them for not fitting into what i see as attractive. I view being overweight, even if you are “healthy” and healthy is such a subjective term, more to do with the lack of disease than the presence of actual health. I’m personally not attracted to flabby people, whether your are kind of thin, kinda of fat, morbidly obese or anything else. I see the body as a tool, and I use it as one, despite having pcos and Hashimoto’s disease (thyroid condition) my body could put a triathletes to shame (in my very biased opinion!) and i couldn’t be attracted to someone with no drive to do better, to use their body as much as they can, to conquer it. I find the models of fitness magazines, some are tall some are short, some have bigger frames, some smaller, but all are FIT, to be much sexier than fashion models, who appear to either be thin through starvation or plain luck. I have no problem with bigger, beautiful women like the one shown in the ad being shown and treated like other models, i don’t buy fashion magazines any ways and one catering to heavy/fat women would just be another i don’t buy. i just don’t think we should criminalize finding thin, more importantly FIT women attractive, this fat acceptance movement is getting ridiculous i don’t think its a healthy mind set to think “this is the way i am everyone should love it” you have every right to your body the way it is, and i have every right to prefer something else. Even the idea of “love your body the way it is”. what ever happened to goals, to wanting to do better because you CAN. instead of trying to change mind sets, try living up to your potential first.

  • marisa k

    I’m around 5’6, 135 lbs, 36DDD, 25 and 1/2 inch waist. I once had a woman say “only dogs like bones, no offense” while at gym, obviously she was referring to me as i was the smallest woman in the gym locker room at the time. I was kind of hurt, then realized that was ridiculous. the premise that men who prefer smaller women were somehow inferior to men who like large/fat women is absurd. I AM curvy, heavy chested, wide hips, slightly heavier thighs/buttocks but i don’t have FAT on me, how does that make me less of a woman? I work hard to be thin and i don’t think there is a damn thing wrong with it, and i view the body acceptance movement to be a way for people to no longer have to try. I don’t think anyone should hate their bodies because they aren’t perfect. I also don’t think we should criminalize the belief that our bodies are worth working on, that they can look the way we want them to. I hate the way many people today and even on this forum make it seem that any woman who likes to look good and be fit, strong, thin, shapely is somehow brainwashed or superficial, and should just “love her fat self”. I’ll never believe that i believe in self improvement as a rule of life, there is no such thing as stagnant, you are always moving forward and if not YOU ARE FALLING BEHIND.

  • marisa k

    * Ill ALWAYS believe in self improvement as a rule of life, there is no such thing as stagnant, you are always moving forward and if not YOU ARE FALLING BEHIND.
    - thats what my last sentence should have been, forgive me i just got off work!

  • kala

    I don’t think it has anything to do with finding your size unacceptable, i think its that most women who are at a size 12-3X or whatever are not physically fit, they have rolls, and indents, little ripples, a little extra fat here, a little less fat there. NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THESE WOMEN, but their bodies are vastly different and clothes would have to be made special for each and every girl, to accommodate the variances in their weight distribution. Women who are overweight, or over norma weight i should say, carry their weights very differently so a woman could be a 5’6 size 6 like me and have a flat stomach but have larger breast .Or she could be a size AA and be bottom heavy, and the same clothes will not fit them. size 2/4 usually are very streamlined, delicate curves/lines. when you pick thin women, under a size four,there is no variance, or at least very little, and you can change models at a minutes notice, and don’t have to account for a model with particularly large breast, or a little extra tummy to hide, its just easier, and in general the same dress looks better on a woman with no stomach to hide and no rolls than it does on another equally beautiful woman whose body calls for more accommodation.
    At least your body size is shown in specialized markets – plus sized fashion. Not for me, I am a size 6, my size really doesn’t end up on ANY run way. regular sized fashion modeling is usually a size 2-4, even 00 are shut out on most major runways. on plus sized modeling the lowest size is 12/14 usually 12. I am much smaller than a 12, a little heavier than 6. Im heavy chested but i have minimal body fat, and the only way for me to be a model would be as a swimsuit model, the only place where not being proportionate (top heavy) is ok the modeling world.

  • mkc

    You obviously are not a physician. I however am and will correct your mistake. Even in a high school health book under weight and weight maintenance it will tell you that a doctor will very rarely if ever try to help a patient gain weight. If you are underweight and concerned and come to my office i will ask you to keep a journal of your diet and as along as you are meeting basic dietary guidelines (not that useless pyramid either) then your weight is of no concern as long as it is steady, and you should gain weight as you get older, just naturally. Being underweight is not a health concern when you come to a doctors office unless you present with endocrine and or hormonal complications which should be addressed and will in turn make you gain weight, but the weight it self is never detrimental to your health if you have a decent diet. Being overweight however hurts you simply because you are over weight, extra fat in the body disrupts all basic functions at the cellular level and physicians will often recommend you loose weight for the sake of loosing weight to promote overall health. That being said there is such a thing as just being cosmetically overweight, a tend lb “weigh swing” so to say where you are overweight from a visual standpoint but it will not adversely judge your health.

  • kala

    twiggy was also under 5′ tall and naturally skinny. she was considered a rarity and even comments that she never felt beautiful at that size because the other models were the voluptuous norm

  • alicia

    this made me laugh! I think its funny when people say they are curvy and they are referring to love handles and rolls. I AM CURVY,(size 37,26,38 she is chubby, i still think her face is hell cute and her over all look in clothes is probably sexy, but i wouldn’t trade my looks for her rolls, and tummy. Ever. even to be in a magazine.

  • leah

    It might be because few people are genetically predisposed to being overweight, even fewer are predisposed to being underweight (the human body likes to store fat – its a survival mechanism. BUT either way it is a predisposition, i have pcos and obese parents and many obese relatives, including my mother, i, genetically speaking, should be overweight probably obese but i don’t live the way they do and I’m a size 4/6 but i naturally have a VERY curvy body, I’m just thin. Ive never looked at a bigger girl and thought something bad about who she is, or that she was lazy. i look at a lazy girl and think she’s lazy, even if she’s thin, i don’t have lazy friends, as I’m a caver and rock climber i like active people, and not all of them have perfect bodies, id take 5’3 170 girl with a good attitude and work ethic out a climb before i took a skinny girl who does nothing but drink diet coke and vegetate on the couch. Skinny is not evil, just because you can’t attain it.

  • alia

    She was a size ten in her own day, if you view her clothing pieces on display in the museums of new york, from the set of the movie seven year itch, you could see that marilyn monroe was (in todays sizes) a size 2 in her glory days, at most in her lifetime a size 6 (she was heavier later in life) but she was also known to go on water diets and binge eat. I was amazed at how small her clothing items were, her jacket was like a child’ss jacket i couldn’t even get in until my elbow! (I’m a size 4/6). yes she was considered a sex goddess but she still occasionally starved herself to look that way, and wore shaping garments to make her self seem more curvaceous. marilyn suffered from the expectations of the industry even when the ideal was not so extreme.
    its offensive that you say only women with out certain assets aren’t beautiful: some fat women have flat butts, little breast, and muscle definition, they are just fat. many more skinny women still have muscle definition and average sized breast/buttocks, the majority of women’s body’s are beautiful if they take care of them.

  • lisel

    Actually omen respond better to pictures of female beauty that looks attainable but is better than their current selves. If you can’t better yourself, why buy any of their products since that is already what you look like? that is a very simple explanation of a complex psychological phenomenon but basically what happens is a heavier woman sees a beautiful piece of clothing on a victoria secret model (heavier than a runway model, their bodies are usually healthy and attainable w. curves so i used this company) a women then subconsciously thinks if she buys victoria secret products she will be as beautiful and good looking as the victoria secret model. not true, you would look nothing like she does in that dress, but it doesnt matter because you’ve already spent your money.

  • ahsley

    Have you ever been to a fertility clinic, the majority of women seeking help because of a weigh related issue do so because they overweight to obese. Another problem is that they must use less effective methods of fertility treatment because a doctor often won’t risk artificial impregnating a larger woman as obesity during gestation is dangerous to the fetus and complicates cesareans should complications arise. Im a physician, but also a patient, when i had trouble conceiving my first child (three years). I also have pcos but i happen to be 5’6 and 130 lbs, my doctor is proud that I’ve kept the weight off. a woman only needs roughly 14% body fat to ovulate, very thin, but only a few percentage points overweight for ovulation to be disrupted and irregular. One of the best ways to combat infertility is to LOSE 5-10 lbs that is often enough to kick start the menstrual cycle for overweight women.

    Also i have a sort exaggerated hour glass figure, you can see my pubic bones, only the crest when i lay flat, as my stomach kind of dips in, but you can’t see my ribs as i am top heavy 36DDD. some women are overweight but you can see their ribs, because they have extreme pear shapes (very small/narrow on top with large buttocks and thighs) your assumptions that women with visible ribs or pubic bones is narrow minded at best…

  • Kai

    How about women stop bashing on each other’s bodies? Skinny women and fat women and everything in-between can be beautiful. Everyone has different height, different bone structure, different genetics. Some people may be obese, but who the hell does that hurt? If you’re small, good for you. One of my friends is 5’10″ and 110 pounds but for her, that works. For me, I’m shorter than her and if I tried to reach that goal I couldn’t because I’m not built to be that small, but I can be perfectly healthy at a size 12. For some reason women are just constantly turning on each other about bodies when we really should just mind our own business because my skinny friend’s body doesn’t affect me, and mine doesn’t affect her. Really. Some people have thyroid problems or PCOS (which 10% of women have nowadays) and both cause massive weight gain if not discovered in the amount of time. Some people just like to eat. Also, some people naturally have super fast metabolisms and were able to be raised in a healthy environment. Some people are also anorexic. It also has to do with socioeconomics. It’s a lot cheaper to feed a family of four at McDonalds than making a super healthy meal sometimes, especially when you take into account a lot of working families and time constraints and availability of resources. It’s all a gamble and no one should have to feel anything but fine about their bodies. So what if the person next to you is 350 or 98 lbs. Does that really affect your life? No skinny-shaming, no fat-shaming, just body positivity. The fashion industry is a whole other story but really, there should be no associations or connotations or stereotypes attached to any body type. Everyone has their individual life that led to where they are.

  • La Dida

    even though they are curvy, they are still within the 4-8 clothing range. it’s still…that isn’t the type of “curvy” that everyone else is talking about. And that is only 2 people @2048a36e1d43264604e8bada8dabbf17:disqus. Skinny bitches are NOT a minority. Didn’t one of the Kardashians freak out for being called a size 6?

  • liya

    well…we all know who will survive the Apocalypse when all the food runs out. ^.^ yay curves!
    also, having more meat on your bones is technically ideal for finding a mate because you will not die while carrying a child.
    having a shape makes clothes fit better.
    HOWEVER!!!
    being thin is more ideal for the times because we do not have to worry about famine.
    the child carrying thing and birthing thing still carries over. so it’s good to not be too thin.
    and now clothing can fit just as nicely for people who don’t have a shape.

  • Stephanie

    Beauty comes in all shapes and sizes. I think both women are beautiful, although I do prefer the plus sized one myself. Women need to love themselves for who they are and not worry about what other people think.

  • http://www.facebook.com/augieg1 Augie Gallegos

    I like the big girls !!

  • Temz

    Oh for goodness sake! Everyone stop making this so personal! The point is that this magazine is trying to do something good here. They are (partly) trying to promote self love regardless of your size and here you are all here slagging each other off and putting each other down? I am overweight and I will be the first to admit that and granted that I may not be the healthiest person on the planet but I have news for you: Having low self esteem is just as bad for you as being an unhealthy weight! So why don’t we try to build each other up instead of beating each other down!?! Believe me, it would be of much more use than the crap I’ve seen in some of these comments…

  • http://www.facebook.com/kimberly.nix.35 Kimberly Gail Nix

    right on thank you

  • greenfaery87

    unfortunately, these days young women gauge their looks by what they see in the mags. and if they in some feel they have fallen short then they consider themselves at fault…so, while the article is about the models, it directly relates to how young women feel about themselves. Labeling another as sickly, gross and extremely unnatural, does nothing to help the matter either.

  • meghan

    people also need to understand that most of the time skinny girls only get mad fun of because the persons jealous. while the heavier girls being called fat for the pure fact of the other person just be crude. just because your a natural weight doesnt mean your healthy that why we have an average height to weight ratio. as well as what type of size you are petite, medium, ot large. it is unhealthy for some one whos 5’9 to only weight a 100- 110 pounds. no matter if you think its a natural weight that is much to thin for your height. just like some one whos 5’2 shouldnt be 150 lbs. everyone different and you have to change your eating habits and such to make your body healthier. this is what causes eating disorders with this thinspirations where girls bones are sticking out. that just sicking and no one should be that thin. no matter how natural you may think it is.

  • Joey Pompano

    I love a bigger girl. They tend to sweat more so you don’t have to spend money on lube.

  • R

    Wouldn’t it be mature of us to start focusing on what’s on the inside of a person, rather than putting so much emphasis on the outside? When you die, what will be left of your body? Compare that to the memories that others will have of you. Which is more important?

  • Megan

    Babes…
    None of us are ugly…
    Society is…
    <3

  • bell1994

    I just see a few extremely beautiful girls. If you eat healthy, and try to be the healthiest you can be then why should anyone mock one another because their body type is different? I have a really muscular, stocky, and curvy build for a girl, but I think a tall skinny thing with mile long legs is gorgeous too. These arguments are ridiculous. All I pray for is one day where a model doesn’t have to resort to some sort of weight loss method that could be physically or mentally damaging. I want to see everyone for who they are at the healthiest they can, or want to be. Who am I to judge?

  • sickofthefatlies

    I’m sorry. You are not within the normal range of the BMI. And, all evidence shows that UNDERWEIGHT is far more dangerous to your health than overweight. So, why then, do we no have weight watchers for you? why are there not a million and one ideas on how YOU should “change your lifestyle” in order to gain weight and be in the “normal” and “healthy” range of the BMI?? I mean, if as is so vastly believed, it is a matter of calories in and calories out, are YOU not being asked to gain weight in order to be acceptable? I mean, as we ALL have been told time and again, it is NOT about heredity or genes, right? at least not for fat? if “fatties” make themselves fat, then you skinny girls must have the perfect formula to make yourselves gain weight in be in the “normal” BMI range? its all about health right?

  • Anonymous

    A fat skank & a thin skank. Real shocking. Oh and they are dyking it up. Oh my. Give me a midget, two fists and a donkey and maybe I’ll bat an eye. Otherwise I can always see a fat dumpster ape screwed by a chimp by watching a Kardashian tape. Ecchhh.

  • robespierre

    The blonde model looks like the mother and the other model not showing her face looks about 11 yrs. old. One looks like a woman, the other like a child.

  • Rachel

    ok after reading all these comments ive come to a conclusion that i think a lot of people will agree with. none of us have the right to judge anyone else. we do not know the story of how or why someone is the way they are, it is not our place to judge. this right here is the problem with society, women are subconsiously judging each other and putting each other down and for what? to make ourselves feel better? to represent our side? why not just accept each other as we are? skinny or curvy, doesnt have anything to do with what kind of person we actually are, nor should we be so hard on ourselves or each other. im sure a lot of you think i sound like your mother but really what is there to gain from being so judgmental of other women? please just think about it

  • gginmia

    She looks INCREDIBLE! Kudos to you !

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OHPXSSTH4FPSDFBGNWJJ4QCZN4 Kristina

    Wow you are ignorant. Your entire comment actually shows how skinny people ARE given a hard time JUST LIKE fat people.
    It’s not about clothing you dip-shit: Nor is it about feeling bad for one group versus another: The issue is about ALL types of being facing the idiocy in others.

    You’re judging skinny people and saying that the problems they face with self-esteem are not justified because, apparently, it doesn’t matter as long as somebody has it worse. Because a girl who IS skinny being called a stuck up bitch for her weight is OBVIOUSLY not as important as a fat person being called a sloppy fat-ass. Just because it’s LESS LIKELY for a skinny person to be attacked for her weight, we are to ignore when it does happen, because obviously skinny people don’t matter as much as fat people right?

    You are the one being stupid: as long as ANYBODY is being made to feel inferior because of the way their body is made there is ALWAYS a problem; and one person’s problem with self image caused by the idiotic and then apathetic comments like yours is never less important than another. You are doing the EXACT same thing that people do to fat people, only VALIDATING your actions because “Oh fat people have it worse, you’re only complaining over nothing, dur.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OHPXSSTH4FPSDFBGNWJJ4QCZN4 Kristina

    And you’re just as bad. Being a minority or not doesn’t make a problem worse or better: As long as it happens at ALL it is a problem!
    Being a minority only means that it is certainly MORE LIKELY to happen to that group, because it doesn’t fit in with societies standards of NORMAL: but that doesn’t mean that it is less important to stand up for the more unlikely times that people who fit in the majority are attacked too.
    The fact that celebrities ‘freak out’ over their weight only shows what the real issue is: People, ALL PEOPLE, can have issues with their self esteem and body image. She freaked out because she feels that being fat is a stigma, because she is not comfortable with herself even when she IS skinny.
    BOTH types of people have it. It’s not solely fat people who deal with being attacked for the stereotypes their weight brings to them, as shown by your stupid ass comment which says skinny bitch problems aren’t as important as fat-ass problems because one is less likely to happen.
    This is reverse discrimination at it’s FINEST.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OHPXSSTH4FPSDFBGNWJJ4QCZN4 Kristina

    Wow you are ignorant. Your entire comment actually shows how skinny people ARE given a hard time JUST LIKE fat people.
    It’s not about clothing you dip-shit: Nor is it about feeling bad for one group versus another: The issue is about ALL types of being facing the idiocy in others.
    You’re judging skinny people and saying that the problems they face with self-esteem are not justified because, apparently, it doesn’t matter as long as somebody has it worse. Because a girl who IS skinny being called a stuck up bitch for her weight is OBVIOUSLY not as important as a fat person being called a sloppy fat-ass. Just because it’s LESS LIKELY for a skinny person to be attacked for her weight, we are to ignore when it does happen, because obviously skinny people don’t matter as much as fat people right?
    You are the one being stupid: as long as ANYBODY is being made to feel inferior because of the way their body is made there is ALWAYS a problem; and one person’s problem with self image caused by the idiotic and then apathetic comments like yours is never less important than another. You are doing the EXACT same thing that people do to fat people, only VALIDATING your actions because “Oh fat people have it worse, you’re only complaining over nothing, dur.”

  • SkinnyB

    ^^ Bitter Jealous Fatty Alert!

  • sarah

    EVERYBODY. We need to stop arguing over who is criticized more, skinny people or curvy people. We need to stop calling both skinny and curvy people ugly, unhealthy, gross, unnatural, etc. We need to stop all the arguing over which is prettier, more attractive, healthy, natural, beautiful. So far I have only seen you all arguing for two sides: skinny (whether it is natural or unnatural), and curvy.

    NOW LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY VERY CAREFULLY.

    There are either people saying that it is ugly or unattractive to be overweight/curvy/anything but “skinny” – this can be the media, such as the modeling and advertising industry, or people in general – or that is is ugly and unattractive to be skinny. We do not need slogans like “skinny is beautiful,” this is not a good message to send to people and it is what the majority of you are arguing against. We ALSO do not need the slogan “curvy is beautiful,” because, even though this is the more empowering slogan for most, it is still just as bad as “skinny is beautiful” because it ALSO says that there is one certain body type that is beautiful.

    The slogan we need is “healthy is beautiful,” whatever that may be for any individual. It could be tall and skinny, petite, curvy, a large build, a muscular build, or anything in between. Whatever is healthy for YOU is beautiful, because “healthy is beautiful.”

    It is a known fact that, generally, obesity is not healthy (there are health conditions that are exceptions to this, i am not saying that everyone who is obese is unhealthy). It is also a known fact that anorexia and other eating disorders are not healthy.

    BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY’S BODY TYPE AND WEIGHT MIGHT BE SIMILAR OR COMPARABLE TO SOMEONE WITH AN EATING DISORDER OR AND OBESE PERSON DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE THEM OBESE, ANOREXIC, UNHEALTHY, UGLY, OR UNATTRACTIVE.

    we all need to remember that people come in many different shapes and sizes that are considered healthy, and the fact that they are healthy makes them beautiful. People who suffer from low self esteem because of their bodies, think they are ugly and unattractive, should remember this fact. They should also remember that there is someone out there that finds them beautiful. Somewhere, there is somebody who thinks your body type is EXACTLY their “type.” Somebody finds your body beautiful, nobody in the world is found unattractive by absolutely everyone, it is a statistical impossibility. Your “healthy” is beautiful, whatever that may be.

  • Darlene

    I blame the media. Really. If we weren’t constantly bombarded from birth with sterotypes we could draw our own conclusions on what is attractive.Everyone is a little different looking from the next person for a reason. It makes us original. Not everyone is attracted to the same qualities. What’s so wrong with that? Everything, according to entertainment and fashion magazines, music videos and TV.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tanisha.banks Tanisha Banks

    Good point. We don’t want anyone to feel alienated.

  • mmarks

    In whose sick universe is a size 6 considered “plus”? Holy crap.

  • Fuzzy Worms

    She is stunning.

  • finallyfit

    I was one of those girls who was 5’9″ and naturally 110 lbs until I was 30 years old. I could not gain weight despite eating fattening foods on purpose all day long. I heard a lot of hurtful things through the years and not just in high school. I was driven to tears on more than one occasion. Once a co-worker staged an anorexia intervention on me. Or the time a man walked up to me on the street and told me that I could get a date if I gained a little weight.

  • Becca

    I think people are not coming at this at the right angle. I think, I hope, that most all of us could say simply making fun of someone, with the sole purpose of hurting them is not okay. I don’t feel I have to say this, but I will: I do not look stereotypically underweight or stereotypically overweight; sure there are things I’d like to change about my appearance, but I’ve accepted the way I look, and have grown to like it sometimes.

    However I do think there is a difference between skinny-hating and fat-hating. And I think if everyone looked at it from an objective perspective, they’d acknowledge the difference. The simple difference is our society is a society where skinny is ideal. But I’ll elaborate…
    Mostly all online websites for department stores or boutiques show a model wearing either a size 2, 4, or small. But they are also way taller than the average person. Average is 5’4. From my experience models typically are 5’9 or 5’10 on these websites. In a robot world where everyone was the same build in weight but varied in height, these girls would be wearing a large because of their height. Obviously we aren’t robots, but my point is that these models defy the height weight chart so to speak. Often you can see the dresses are way too short for them, because they are wearing an xs. Which I believe is okay. I do think that these stores can advertise however they want. Clearly its working they’ve stayed in business, despite the fact that less than 1/4 percent of people are they’re height and weight breakdown.

    Although I do think that its okay for them to advertise they’re clothes how they want, I don’t think my next way in which we are well aware that skinny is ideal is as acceptable. People with power and influence simultaneously put down people for gaining weight, EVEN IF THEIR NEW WEIGHT IS HEALTHIER and support people for losing weight, EVEN IF THEIR NEW WEIGHT IS HEALTHIER. Sorry for the caps lock, but I think thats a supper important message. On more than one occasion a celebrity as lost weight and is not underweight but gets a spread in a magazine. Often there is a question, something along the lines of, “you look great how did you lose the weight?” Then they say something along the lines of, “I ate no carbs, one egg for breakfast, a shake for lunch, and didn’t eat much for dinner. I also worked out five days a week for a hour with my personal trainer.” And you read these things and you think, or I think at least, “Well that sounds terrible. I’d be hungry.” But nobody ever asks if its healthy. They represent that losing weight as quickly as possible by eating very little and working out a lot is a wonderful idea. When I read that I do worry that some 14 year old girl who wants to look good for a high school dance, now decides to eat that way, without considering that she is still growing and that she’s built differently than this woman. On the other end of the spectrum you have people who gain ten pounds and they;re are ads about it! That’s what blows my mind! We print articles about a woman who gains ten pounds, and find the most unflattering pictures we can find to juxtapose with the best picture of her ever taken. Do we have no shame! Do we ask why this happened? Do we talk about what’s healthy? No! We just compare pictures and call her fat. Meanwhile there is a great chance she is still healthy, and a great chance that after her weight gain she is healthy for the first time in years! Maybe this woman decided that she wanted pasta for dinner on occasion, and that she wanted to eat ice cream with her kids (while still maintaining a healthy lifestyle), and then her natural body type that she had fought for so long evolved. She might have never been this healthy -physically and mentally- in 20 years. I think we should praise that. We have to know the facts before we pass judgement.

    And I know this is so long, but just a short story…My cousin was a model for a while. She sort of fell into it, it was never her intention. Someone approached her at a football game and she got a small and short modeling career. She told me about her experience with the Miss Oklahoma pageant. She was in a room backstage and there were some other girls there and she was eating a hamburger. She said that many of the girls stared at her in disbelief, and that a couple even made comments about how she should not ever eat a hamburger. So yes, as much as I know that a select few people are built like a model, it it such a small percentage. Many of these girls were eating such restricted diets to be a model. Is that okay? Maybe, I guess its opinion. Were all of these girls restricting their diet to keep a healthy weight? No, many of them were underweight. Do we want more girls to be underweight? No. Do we want more girls to be overweight? No. We want all girls to be healthy. But we know that is not feasible for all. Some people eat well balanced diets and are overweight. Some people eat well balanced diets and are underweight. In my opinion both of these girls are more admirable than a woman who eats a very unbalanced diet and is either underweight or overweight.

    But to tie this all together, since society strongly pressures and supports people being underweight, regardless of the means to get there, I think skinny people have the upper hand. Or rather, society has given people the upper hand. So a skinny person making fun of a fat person is kind of like using your given upper hand against people who have been given a lower hand. It just doesn’t sit right with me. That being said, I condemn making fun of anyone’s appearance. And what I believe to be more important, skinny people can be unhappy with their bodies too!! Models may be skinny, but how often do we hear guys say negative things about a model’s body, and mention how they want women with big boobs. Most everyone would like to change some aspect of their appearance. And most everyone has days when they don’t like the way their body looks. Making fun of their appearance is simply cruel.

    This has been so long, not sure I have any readers left haha. But I hope we can strive and support those women (and men) who eat well balance diets, and value being healthy. And I hope we can stop making fun of people for how they look, especially when we don’t know why they look that way.

  • Reinelle

    Well said!

  • Tess

    @Ayush Thor is one fine looking man! So are Vin Diesel and The Rock. You know many thousands of women find them very desirable, more so than the men they encounter in regular life. Of course thise men do not have personal trainers and a career which consists of working out 6-8 hours a day every single day. How do you measure up? What is your shoulder to waist ratio? Do you have knobby knees? Will you get a paunch once you pass 30? Are your ribs more visible than your muscles? Healthy starts where?

  • Tess

    Wow Kiki! I like your style. Normally I am against verbal attacks but you just delivered a really appropriate lashing to this Ayush. I am fairly sure he is a virgin and a young teen though.

  • SomeTeen

    Thnx you just made me realise that i dont need to starve myself to be beautiful

  • http://www.facebook.com/kelly.foster.9279 Kelly Foster

    Having done Plus Size modeling myself I am very proud of this campaign! More women in this world look like me than like the models in most magazines.

  • Crashnmary

    The plus size model is healthy and beautiful. I’m tired or going shopping and the clothes sizes keep getting smaller, which makes me fill fatter!!!

  • woman

    The first post I’ve seen that I can relate to. being short, skinny, assless, and breastless is just as difficult, considering the clothes i have to buy end up costing me a fortune if i can even find any that actually fit properly without drowning me in it or i end up having to shop in the junior department as a 21 year old.. i see “plus size” stores everywhere for those taller than “average” and “bigger than average” women and men. the only petite stores i find end up having some dastardly ugly clothing from a clash of the 90s and 30s… find me a fashionable petite store with size 000-2 at a decent price and I’d be happy and grateful the world would come around to my small side once in awhile.

    on another note. i applaud both models, neither of them appear unhealthy, you can’t see ribs or any other less visible bones and the other woman is beautiful as well. look how tall she appears next to the smaller model!! fantastic!
    the one thing that got my eyes bugging out was how she was laying on the other model… that’s just awkward modeling. what is that pose supposed to say? pornography???

  • Tara

    Looking at the thin model, she appears to be healthy for her size. I don’t see ribs sticking out. Yes she is thin, but some people have a thinner body type. I see no reason to say one is more beautiful than the other. What we need to emphasis to our young girls is the importance of eating healthy, being active, and being happy with who you are. I’m sure most of us have failed at one, two or all three of these at one point or another. It’s a struggle, but when you are able to achieve the first two, it’s easier to be happy about who you are naturally. I have spent a lot of time with women of all sizes who are comfortable enough to expose their bodies for the world to see. It’s really the confidence of being comfortable with who you are, that makes you beautiful. Not your dress size.

  • C-Lo

    While the message is sound, why does the pictorial have to border on pornographic? It detracts from the message.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mark.simth.16 Mark Simth

    I my gosh that is one sexy woman!! I am in LOVE!

  • Naomi F

    It turns me on, i love it!

  • Ai

    I just threw up in my mouth. Not because of her size, but the tasteless photos.

  • chubbychaser

    My erect penis approves of this ad campaign.

  • Anonymous

    This chick weighs less than Chris Christie’s left leg below the knee.

    She needs to put on another 50 pounds to be a G.O.P. woman.

  • Casey

    Im Crying!!! Im literally tearing up right now. Because i get these photos. spread the word. women come in all shapes and sizes. this makes how i look naked o.k. showing this to men and women makes it ok. i dont see fat or skinny in these photos. becuase everyone’s “normal” is different. she looks stunniing i have chills i want to contact this “plus” size model i want to hug her and thank her she looks amazing and shes making me me feel like i look amazing too.

  • Togah

    This makes me so happy! Show it all off!

  • Karolyn

    I think it’s wonderful to have models of all ages, body types and cultures. Unless you live in a cave the world is full of a large and varied assortment of humans and that is how the media should display us. I think it’s a great layout and am grateful to have a plus size woman remind the world of how beautiful we all are.

  • sharlynn

    I think it is beautiful, and should be taken in the best of contexts. She is loving and supportin this other model and they are both saying you are beautiful, I am beautiful. WE are women.

  • Kason

    33.9% of americans are considered obese. I think if you fall into this category then get off your butt and do something about it ie go to doc exercise eat healthy. Why fight with others about this, being to skinny or to fat? Fix it and yes I know that you can be skinny and be skinny fat I don’t care about this because it is not close to the 33.9% of obese. Americans are fat and lazy and have excuses for it. Other countries do not look like us and have the same diseases problems that make it so they can’t lose weight ohh but they don’t use this as an excuse they eat healthy and exercise way more than Americans. Seriously stay away from that fast food and quit being lazy! It is only the US with this problem!

  • agirlfromusa

    hot sexy my hands are wandering

  • Gina

    Too thin is unhealthy. Big might be beautiful but it’s not healthy either!

  • beth

    I think this is terrific.

  • C. Township

    I’m just happy that people aren’t criticizing these images because of the fact these models are women, they are naked and they are touching. When I first saw these pictures I thought, ‘Oh, great here comes the homophobia.’ Then to my surprise, it’s all about size and health. Isn’t that sad that I feel relief that one type of bigotry is ignored because another is the more obvious target. Point being, I’d like to live in a world where we can see that all types of oppression are connected. I shouldn’t be glad to see that MY most feared ‘ism’ is not present. Whether a person is being criticized for size, sexuality, beliefs or color – it’s all holding us back as a species. We can do so much better. This starts with me.

  • We are Beautiful.

    I think these photos are beautiful.

  • Anonymous

    I was bullied in high school, myself, people making nasty remarks about how thin I was. But the minute I shot up, & still stayed thin, those mouths zipped closed, because they suddenly became desperately afraid that I would call them all “fat”. My own mother taught me that, after years of people being cattily “complimentary” about “how skinny she was”, she finally shot back, “I’m not skinny – I’m just don’t weigh as much as you!” It’s almost a shame that you are so nice a person that this never occurred to you. I did have a boyfriend insist that I had to be anorexic – & I bet he still wonders why I suddenly stopped dating him. I only hope that you become able to put these jerks in their places – & yes, they deserve rude remarks about their weight, if they start in on yours.

  • Anonymous

    wow, i’m surprised the photo spread showed her nipple. btw, she may not be a skinny model but she is still hot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ab-Contador/100000035839028 Ab Contador

    No matter how many articles, no matter how many pleas, fat is ugly and unhealthy — no one is attracted to potatoes (the shape of one that is) and that simple reality will never change. Sorry ladies, better put the potato chips back down if you want a quality guy.

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  • lucy

    Thank you!!! You’re on the money. I’m 5’8 and 115. I try to eat healthy, but I also eat whatever I want, whenever I want, and have no problems diving into a mound of chocolate cake. I hate how people start criticizing slender people as unhealthy and starving!! Bodies come in all shapes and sizes, and as long as you’re being the best you, and healthy is all that matters!

  • Julia

    WOW, I am not just saying this–but my tummy is very similar to the plus sized tummy, although I have a rounder butt and slightly bigger breasts. And when I go to the gym I am the physically strongest woman there–because I have accepted what is healthy for me (155 pounds). I also regularly overcome men when I bicycle because of my stamina (ex-soccer player). But I still feel fat sometimes, despite my physical power, because of the very I still don’t see myself in magazines. I only see myself in before and after pictures of diet advertisements. So it is good to see such a beautiful woman like her in a photograph–and one that looks like my naturally straighter and skinnier (and taller) sister, too.

  • Julia

    Although my sister’s arms are not that skinny. The point is she is beautiful, too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004292472388 Benito Camela

    fat bitch is ugly, don’t photoshop her and you’ll get the scare of your life.
    fat bitches should not model, that is disgusting, et plus, it promotes overweight.

  • Anonymous

    if there’s nothing wrong with our bodies why is there something wrong with being thin?

  • Jina

    I think the point is not to be underweight or overweight. Some people naturally lean towards the skinny side, others toward the fuller figures.
    It is really bad to be skinny to the point of anorexia, but being fat is equally disgusting – it shows gluttony and lack of self control. A person needs to know their limitis, both in dieting and eating, in order to achieve the perfect body for their structure.

  • pike6598

    Both women in this shoot prompted the “appropriate male reaction signifying approval” from me, so I guess “Size doesn’t matter.” :-)

  • http://twitter.com/jddascencioi Iambic Singularity

    I’ll be blunt. The plus size lady just turns me on, wildly. And, when you compare the two models, it’s just blatant that more is better.
    If you must encourage overweight people to go on a diet, do it telling them it’s better for they health and not because of how they look…and while you’re at it, do the same thing with people that is so skinny you can see their ribcage. Like models, because, I’m sure that’s not good for their health either.

  • ABCDEFG

    That plus sized model is unhealthy? I wouldn’t kick her out of bed…

  • Photog

    I would photograph (and date) her without being asked twice; very tastefully done as well as sensual and sexy.

  • beau

    Everyone carries their body weight differently. I was always 120-125 at 5’5″. I worked out everyday and watched my diet closely. Most people thought I weighed 105 to 110 lbs. I have several friends who look frail thin. One for example she’s 5’7″ and by looking at her she looks like she weighs 105 lbs! Her weight is 155, but she’s pure muscle and very petite. So I don’t know if I believe that these women actually weigh as less as they claim they do, especially if your tall.

  • beau

    My weight has always fluctuated. I cannot speak for anyone else, but I know that I was most happiest when I was fit and healthy, only because I ate properly and exercised. When I did not do those things, my weight packed on and I could not control it. I believe being active is the key to feeling good inside and out. Maybe some body frames will not match up to those other smaller body frames, but the important thing is to take care of your body by eating healthy and exercising. It’s very important, no matter how negative some may view it. It can be a positive rewarding thing if one stays with it. I had a very hard time losing weight at one point in time. I worked out 2 hours a day and carefully watched my food intake. It became frustrating to me because I felt I was not going anywhere with my weight loss, so I then gave up. Little did I know I was vitamin D defficient, so it became very difficult for me to lose the weight. Thank goodness I took care of it and I feel so much better. I think there are many people that may have experienced this, but as long as they are doing the right things, even if they are having a hard time losing the weight, stay with it and get yourself a physical to find out what may be the cause of it.

  • beau

    And I can almost bet you look fit and healthy. My friend who’s 5’7″ and weights 155 lbs, her body looks absolutely amazing… She is very lean and looks just like a victoria secret model. I would have guessed she was 110 lbs with her petite frame, so yes, everyone carries their weight differently due to their body frame. I at 5’5″ 120-125 always looked very thin. People always thought I was 105 to 110 lbs and I worked out very hard to keep myself in shape. If people honestly think that’s over weight, they are really sick in the head.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jane.wostbrock Jane E Wostbrock

    This is a very sensual woman. She looks great!

  • thequalityofmercy

    skinny people can be so stupid: if you think this gal is obese, you are setting yourselves up for failure. If agencies consider a size 6 a plus size today, perhaps tomorrow it will be a 4 or a 2. Then, YOU will be the fatty corpulent, obese gal. Hey, once upona, the model’s size was 6. Look at what RL did when he fored that one runway gal for being too large (what was she? A 2 or 4 I think . . .). GO ahead, PICK on the chubby gals–YOUR day will come when someone looks at you selecting a size 2 from the clothing rack and shrieks, “OMIGOD: WHAT A PORKER!!!!!” it could happen

  • fancypants

    AND there are people with LARGE body types (as you said, come in all different sizes). I know a lovely woman who has a fab figure and I was very surprised to learn she weighed 150 and was 5’7″. By your standard (and today’s agencies) she is an obese porker just because of the numbers. She is an average, healthy weight for her size/age and looks better than a lot of bony-butt homelies scraggling thru my local mall as if they are “it” because their knees haven’t ever touched.
    The point here is that if someone does not measure up to YOUR standard of perfection, get on with your life and don;t get so upset over someone else’s size. I have never ogled a scrawny woman in the mall and screamed STICK! at her or laughed at her protruding shoulder blades and wingbones as scary. Nor have I ever stopped and stared at her in a restaurant while she grazed on a grape and Evian and whispered loudly, “SOME people just don;t know WHEN to EAT!” Ya know why? Because it is really not my business and my business (EWWWW! SOME people look so UGLY in thick eyeglass lenses!!!!”) is not theirs.

  • fancypants

    wrong: some heavy people ARE healthier than some thin people–it’s in the genes

  • fancypants

    WRONG; doctors know that underweight girls have developmental problems and late onset puberty (conversely, heavier girls have the opposite issue). BTW, I AM a doctor

  • fancypants

    One of the problems is that many of these models are tens (or in some cases, just past puberty) and are dressed/made-up to appear as if they are adults. The body image is unrealistic since they are pretending to be 20-30 somethings in their ads/runway shows. NO adult female can achieve that body type unless she is anorexic or has surgery. Nature does not develop us that way. Those gals in the wrinkle cream commercials are probably in their late teens. You can have a nice complexion/skin at 40 or 50, but it will never be the skin (elasticity. moisture content) of a child of 10 or 13. It is very wrong, deceitful, and disingenuoous to use these females to create angst in women who simply cannot turn back the clock and have the hipless, buttless, bosomless bodies and elastic dewy skin of someone on the verge of adulthood. It is no wonder the fashion and plastic surgery/beauty industry makes money hand over fist: they make you hate yourself for being NORMAL (and I am talking TRULY normal size/appearance here). My god, imagine if they suddenly started using newborns to advertize cosmetics/fashion: we would be thinning our hair, pulling our teeth and lord knows what to achieve “THE LOOK”

  • fancypants

    me: wow, that was an ignorant comment. Some ethnic types ARE “fatter” than others and it is natural to be heavier. You should not make proclamations on things about which you know nothing–it makes you sound stupid.

  • fancypants

    me: once again, an ingorant comment. Did you even READ what she posted? Her stats demonstrate that she is healthy–and that is what counts. You have a lot of anger issues. You may be skinny, but you definitely need psych counseling to get over your hate. What type of abuse did you suffer to make you so angry?

  • fancypants

    beau: good point. Weighing 100 lbs is not unhealthy: unless you are two months old. Age has a lot to do with weight as well. Frame, ethnicity, athleticism, genetics. me is just a teen or preteen for whom 30 is probably NEAR DEATH as well. It is obvious from his/her comments that he/she has OTHER, DEEPER issues.

  • fancypants

    verdad: I saw a photo of Lisa Rinna the other day and her head looked five sizes bigger than her torso and her legs were sticks. She is supposed to have been a model but she looks bizzarely disproportionate. Also that Jaime Pressley (sp) gal: her collar, shoulder, neck, and wingbones dominate her body. She looks like she just got out of Auschwitz. That is not right.

  • fancypants

    me: stupidity again? Fat is “not attractive” because we have decided it is not. Once upona, fat was preferred. (look up Venus of WIllendorf). IT was a status and practical item: fatter people stored more weight and would be able to survive; they were better at reproduction and fecundity/nursing; they could extra calories). Fat alo meant you were well provided for (unlike the poor and skinny who were likely NOT to survive or fend for themselves, be fecund). Please, please please get counseling. Anyone who is so daft about overweight people (especially since you don;t think YOU are overweight, so it cannot be self-hate for heaviness), has deep emotional issues. DO you have this same attitude about those with corrective lenses, overbite or toe fungus? Really, dear. Anger management might help. I meet people like you in my practice frequently. Whatever happened/is happening to you needs to be addressed so you cna refocus and move on with your life.

  • fancypants

    did you know that historically, those who migrated to and lived in America (early colonial period) tended to be healthier and heavier than their European counterparts? IT is because the diet here was more varied and plentiful whereas food was less varied, more expensive/less accessible to most fok in Europe. The “better class” of Euros during the 15th-19th centuries tended to be those who were heavier and could afford more and more varied diets. Just letting you all know the facts.

  • fancypants

    I would say majority rules–look at it this way (Darwinially speaking): if people are getting fatter, perhaps part of the reason is biological and related to evolutionary issues.. Something to consider. I don’t hear anyone here going off on TALL people and people have actually been getting TALLER over the centuries. So, as some of you are arguing here, “ewwww! Americans are getting TALLER each year!” sounds pretty ridiculous, doesn’t it?

  • fancypants

    anonymous: uh, you did not appear to wait for a reply to that. Simply the fact that some people are fat and some skinny should indicate that models should represent ALL shapes/sizes. Runway models are also unnaturally tall (compared to the population)–so unless you are OVERr 5″10 or 5″11, YOU would be considered an aberration by industry standards. But it is odd that you are only picking on the weight issue and not on people’s SHORTNESS.

  • Pat

    Seeing “plus size” models is a nice change, but these gals don’t look plus size/ BUT WHY do two women have to be in very intimate embraces just to prove a point?

  • Amy

    I did just that a year ago, and found that I was severely deficient in vitamins D and B12. I immediately started supplementation, and started feeling better within a few weeks. I was able to lose 12 pounds, but it was still very difficult. My D level is still low, so I am upping the dosage… Keeping fingers crossed :)

  • Hannah

    You have obviously never been to France if you believe everyone there is “model skinny.” French women have a healthy weight overall, but are nowhere near stick thin on average. They are merely build slimmer, more petite when we are talking frame/skeletal build, but that’s a whole different thing altogether! What an ignorant, narrow-minded fool you are!

  • Hannah

    The fact that we are having this discussion right now about the “normal” model’s weight kind of defeats your argument that “it tends to bring more focus to the fashion than the body.” I am not sure anyway how having super skinny models instead of normal sized ones makes one look more at the clothes?!?!?

  • Hannah

    The point is that the “naturally thin”, size zero person is a MINORITY, yet this body frame is OVERWHELMINGLY represented in the fashion and celebrity world! It makes no sense and promotes unhealthy starvation of especially young girls who try to look like the supposed “norm”. Naturally skinny girls will hardly suddenly try to put on kilos in desperation if we switch back to more normal sized models.

  • Hannah

    I daresay you are the one who needs to do some growing up! Countering an abusive post with another abusive post is highly immature. And what on earth do YOU know about how that person grew up? What bizarre correlation is that – skinny = happy childhood?!?!? Man, you have some personal growing to do, my friend.

  • U

    The straight-size model looks like an adolescent girl, which is kind of disturbing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Moody/100002352525743 Robert Moody

    Fat women keep trying to tell me they’re sexy. I tell them fat is not sexy, fat is nasty, and it’s not going to be sexy no matter how much you want it to be.

  • Kay

    I think both women are beautiful. I’m 20 years old, at one point (when I was around 17-18 years old) I was approx 5’3 245 pounds. Now, at 20 I am 5’4 150 pounds (a size 10). I think that 2-3 years ago I was very unhealthy. Now, I love the way I look because I am a healthy weight and I have curves. I think the thinner model doesn’t look starved, she just looks like a slimmer woman, that’s all. I feel like I am at a very healthy weight but I still feel like I should be thinner because “curvier” girls are not always considered to be as pretty as thin girls. After I met my current boyfriend though, that totally changed. He changed the way I look at myself and tells me constantly how beautiful I am. The sad part is, it took me a long to believe him. All women are beautiful in their own way and this ad kicks some serious ass! You go girl!

  • Lowey86

    It looks like a woman hugging a tall child. The standard model is too thin. The plus sized model looks like how a woman is supposed to look. She doesn’t have a big gut and flabby legs. She is soft but solid.

  • Lowey86

    I agree fancypants. Im about 40 lbs overweight, but I let I can out run and out lift most normal weight and thin people. I love working out but I like to eat too. One day i might lost some weight but if not Im not going to give up on myself and just pig out.

  • I don’t make fun of fat people

    Leave skinny people alone.. oh my god..

  • http://twitter.com/powerhungryfilm Melinda Augustina

    Beautiful. They’re both beautiful. Manufacturers and advertisers should get with the program and feature all types of bodies in their ads. The worst that could happen? They increase their customer base.

  • http://twitter.com/powerhungryfilm Melinda Augustina

    totally.

  • http://twitter.com/powerhungryfilm Melinda Augustina

    Exactly. I was so thin, my hip bone broke. It’s not healthy – especially when they are so young and still growing. Optimal health is my only goal now.

  • http://twitter.com/powerhungryfilm Melinda Augustina

    precisely.

  • Confused

    I really don’t understand why clothing manufacturers ignore half of their potential customer base. Doesn’t make much sense to me. Above average weight girls want cute clothes too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Vyxxyn Deona Hand Boyle

    Most NORMAL men I know want REAL women. not these walking skeletons with pretty faces. No that doesn’t mean obese either, I just sayin, thick girls! It aint just for the minority girls iether, white chicks can be thick an look just as good too! We need to send the fashion industry a message loud and clear!
    PEOPLE IN FASHION LISTEN UP! START DESIGNING CLOTHES FOR REAL WOMEN AGAIN!!! WE ARENT STARVING OURSELVES TO FIT YOUR CLOTHES ANYMORE!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregory.r.lewis1 Lewis Gregory

    I would love to bang either of them. And the problem is that most “Plus size” women don’t look like her. She may be a little bigger than average, but her body is proportional. That is the difference. Most “plus size” women are giant saggy blobs. And don’t try to pretend that the skinny model in this spread is not attractive.

  • anon

    fap fap fap fap fap fap

  • KMD

    I would take Katya over the unnamed model any day of the week. Women are supposed to have curves.

    There is a big difference between being “thick” and being obese. It is sad that society has a difficulty seperating the two. The difference is health. There is nothing wrong with plus-sized women; in fact, I prefer them to the “skinny as rails”. (which incidently is actually much more unhealthy). However, there is also a fine line between plus-sized and obese.

    I support efforts like this to promote that the “stereotypical beauty of skinny as rails ideal” that has existed in our society for the past 30 years is a farce. Most men prefer women with some meat on her bones. The problem is that these efforts need to be careful as to not promote obesity. (trust me, I am not suggesting that Katya is obese in any way at all, she is the perfect example of “Healthy”). There is a fine line between “big is beautiful” and “unhealthly obese” and sometimes people miss the difference.

  • Amy Batth

    I get what they’re pointing out and I have always agreed but to be honest, I did not like this photoshoot. It was just a bit too akward for me; Katya is groping her at one point then smothering her the next. Also, where’s the middle weight woman?! All I see is the above average weight woman and the below average weight woman.

  • Stephanie Mizell

    “Your weight is hard on your heart, usually lines your arteries with plaque, tears up your knees and you never feel pretty cause … you aren’t, and YOU know it ”
    - So by this comment, just because I’m 5 ft 5 and weight 200 pounds (labeled as obese) I’m supposed to think I’m not pretty, beautiful, or sexy? Check your comments at the door because I KNOW I’m beautiful! I am overweight, I have fat, but I AM DOWNRIGHT BEAUTIFUL.

    Comments like yours that don’t help people believe they are beautiful REGARDLESS what they look like. You did a slap in the face – I’m going to tell you YOU need to think your ugly because I think your fat and fat is ugly…. well – how about this for being judgmental .. I think people who sniff coke are disgusting, lazy, rude, and need to be thrown in jail because they are breaking or broke the law… If there’s ANY feeling of “Bitch! I’m not that person you don’t know me” then you get my point.

  • Sally

    I think the smaller girl needs to put on a few pounds.Look at her poor little stick arms. I’m a woman and I prefer a MAN with some meat on him. Hugging someone and feeling bones is just repulsive. The larger girl–I applaud her spunk in baring herself, because you know all those people obsessed with thin are going to make derogatory remarks about her size–tho she is a beautiful girl. Brava!!!!

  • dws123

    that, is classic beauty. that is a woman.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dorothy.vosnick Dorothy Vosnick

    I think it’s awesome there both beautiful and i think it’s time society stop promoting this anerexia crap. Women with curves is awesome and nothing wrong with it ,we need to teach our children that cause now society teaches be skinny be skinny NO BE U BEAUTIFUL the way you are.I commend the model shot that is awesome.Need more of it.

  • hannah

    There are so many body types its kind of crazy to make two categories skinny and fat. I think these adds are just aimed to make fatter girls feel better about themselves. I mean honestly. (I am a fat girl) Everyone has their own idea of what skinny and what fat is and all the in betweens. Arguing about it will not change someones mind. Skinny is pretty and fat is pretty and all of the ones in between.

    I am sure some girls cannot help being as skinny as they are. Yes some do the whole starve your self to death and some fat girls do the whole eat your self to death. Weight is so controversial with women more than men is because men do not have as big of an issue with their thyroid gland. Thats why its so simple for men to lose weight (most of them gained it from unhealthy eating and lack of exercise)

    However, many women have an over active thyroid which cause them to burn calories alot faster (eat everything no exercise and nvr gain) than someone who has an under active thyroid.(diet exercise and nvr lose) (these are examples) You can control it to a point but not to well without the correct medication. And even then it is still a struggle.

  • Me

    Anyone who says the “plus sized” model is over weight needs to give their head a shake, same with those who claim the “normal sized model” is disgusting. They are both unique creatures. They’re both women. At the end of the day how can we judge one another on how much we weigh? At the end of the day. We’re unique and different but it’s because of what’s inside (NOT OUR WEIGHT) that makes us that way.

  • Inertia421

    I know this is an old thread, but I still feel compelled to comment. What no one has mentioned (at least not in the comments I’ve scrolled through) is that a healthy body can’t be judged by looks or size, as the are so many different body types. Health is defined by an individuals eating habits, physical exercise, and how they take care of themselves (sleep, stress, alcohol, drugs, etc). Both of the women in the pictures are beautiful the way they are IF they’re leading a healthy lifestyle. We need to educate people on taking care of what they’ve been given and not comparing themselves to others.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UKKBCDR7IF4D6SCFNPFHZEZDLQ Riven

    For the people who are saying the “thin” model isn’t too thin, she has no muscle tone. That is too thin. That is sickly. No wonder why she’s so skinny, she can’t even pick up her food probably! Everyone is talking about obesity. Yes it’s a problem. It’s a major problem in our society, but the model above is not obese. If that thinner model had muscle tone, it would be different.

  • Shirshak Tamrakar

    They’re both beautiful… noone’s 200 pounds here, and I’m good with that.

  • http://twitter.com/RockwellH Rocky Howell

    most people forget one of the most beautiful woman in the world was Marilyn Monroe and she was never below a size 12

  • Chella

    Did anyone else notice that the thinner girl has acne ALL OVER her bottom?

  • Jada

    The smaller model is a lil on the too thin size in my opinion . Maybe she is just naturally that way ( beauty is in the eye of the beholder) I’m not trying to knock anyone . I do feel the point of the spread but think some of the photos are uncalled for , a little tasteless I shall say .

  • anon

    if you ask me, the “skinny model” is a bit chubby too…

  • http://www.facebook.com/sanja.bonnick Sanja Bonnick

    Ok except for the spreads that have the two women touching and the one with the woman’s nipple exposed, I don’t find anything wrong with them. I think it looks good. Skinny girls can pose naked why can’t they?

  • http://www.facebook.com/sanja.bonnick Sanja Bonnick

    Wow this is beautiful. I couldn’t agree more. I keep saying if you have and ugly attitude and personality then you will never be pretty on the outside. And I have proven it for myself. Well said.

  • me

    They need to stop judging the skinny girl and the heavier girl everyone is different.I’am 5’5 116 pounds used to be 124 pounds and women still thought I was too sknny and I wear a size 8 so you can’t win with women.I have hyperthyroidism so my weight really goes down alot .I remember at one time and being bullied by girls at work because I’am thin and yet have boobs and a.. and yet they wanted me to tell them I got a boob job when i’AM NATURAL.Women are so hard on each other and on their own bodies we need to acccept ourselves if we are thin or not one is not better than the other if you are healthy.I wish what would change is the harshness towrds women and how we treat other women if she has a great body why call each other names out of jealousy .

  • Hojean

    When I was 26 I was 5’3″ and 110 pounds…now I am 52, 5’3″ and 230 pounds. Every person has their own ideal weight at different stages of life. I never dreamed after being skinny for so many years that I would be overweight because I could eat whatever I wanted and not gain weight…Now it doesnt seem to matter how little I eat, I am still a big gal. I wish my body shape was more proportionate from top to bottom, but the extra weight does not make me ugly….looking back at skinny pics I looked kinda sick in comparison, but wasnt ugly then either. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and you have to learn to behold yourself in a positive light. I am healthier in some ways now than I was then…my cholesterol was 277 then and now it is below 200. I do not have high blood pressure or heart disease because I am overweight. We all need to be accepting of all body types because you never know when your own will change…age and metabolism can cause some major changes over time, such as 120 pounds in 26 years…just ask me!!! I gress you could say I am twice the woman my hubby married 32 years ago!!!

  • nina sleight

    Honestly this argument about which model is unhealthy and when thin models became the norm in fashion industry is turning into weight bashing. Stop arguing about whether being overweight or skinny is unhealthy. Stop claiming that one is unattractive. It’s not your place to judge someone else’s body. As long as you are comfortable in your body, you don’t have any major health issue that can be attributed to your weight and you feel happy, healthy and attractive then what other people think about your body type or anyone else’s body type should not matter. So worry about your own body and let others do the same. Both of the model, whether their weights are natural and healthy or not, are obvious very beautiful and very confident in themselves. Take a lesson from them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mnm4334 Matthew William Millett

    Yes lets perpetuate that nobody needs to change, everyone is beautiful how they are and we should all be happy to live in mediocirty. I am sorry but how will making people feel good about themselves motivate them to change? stop pretending you are perfect everyone can improve upon themselves you are not fine the way you are everybody always should strive to improve themselves, and if you are overweight you are not healthy, just because you feel put upon by people who are thin doesnt justifty the unhealthy is beautiful attitude put fourth by this article.

  • Anonymous

    My God, is she beautiful… I don’t know when the shift happened, but a woman without curves just doesn’t look right to me. This “plus-sized” model is just right… and absolutely gorgeous!

  • CF

    Still not quite plus size just plus size compared to the size zero models!! but still beautiful and getting there.

  • curly blue

    Problem is, that is not what sells. Marketing is for the sole purpose of making more money, so unless you would like to stsart a advertising company that uses up all you savings and puts you into bankruptcy, then your stuck with the status quo. Women spend billions of dollars to make themselves look different than they are naturally, so if these “plus sized” women feel they are beautiful being overweight, why do they spend money on make up and expensive clothes? Because they want to look better than what they are naturally. There is nothing wrong with that, but don’t try to pretend you are happy with being a ‘plus size’ and then do every thing you can that doesn’t take work and self control, to make yourself look better (clothes, make up, hair, nils etc).

  • Curly blue

    99% of those who are commenting that the ‘plus size’ woman is hot, are plus size themselves. You can’t look in a mirror and feel like that looks good. I’m not saying ‘scare crow’ is the route to go, but lets get real, there is no way she can be ‘healthy’ with that much fat bouncing around. It’s a choice that she doesn’t want to exercise, and use self control. Some women are large by default, but being fat is a choice. Very few men actually prefer a ‘plus size’ women, or they would marry one in the first place. I doubt very seriously that a woman who takes care of herself, eats right and exercises, would prefer to be married to and sleep with a man who was fit and trim and weighed 185lbs when they got married, and now has ballooned into a 290lb slob. A little self respect here.

  • Curly Blue

    Really? Molested/raped? Either this happened to you, and if it did I am truly sorry that it did, or you read this in a magazine or heard it on Opra. The % of women that this would account for that are obese, would be way less than 1%. No one wants to fess up, but it comes down to being lazy. If you have and hour to watch TV or surf the net then you have time to exercise. It’s called choices. I speak form experience. When I simply eat what I “want” and don’t care, my weight jumps, plain and simple. If I actually consider what I will eat and exercise the weight drops and I level out. In todays culture, it’s always do what is easiest and what feels right. Do some research and see what the % was for overweight/obese women and men in the last 60 years. No surprise that is has jumped dramatically. Most women and men who are fat, are fat because they choose not to use self control in their lives plain and simple. Of course there is the exception when it is a medical issue, but that is so minuscule, that it isn’t a part of this issue.

  • Curly Blue

    But when you are naked and look in a mirror, do you look fat? I seriously doubt it. Agreed, muscle weight is significantly more than fat, so I don’t care about a scale in my life, but when I look in the mirror, if I am 5’2″ and weigh 130lbs, but have rolls on my stomach then that is too much. Either work out and eat correctly to turn it into muscle or lose it.

  • Tera Procunier

    Not to mention just because you are bigger does not mean you are unhealthy. I am a little bigger yet my triglycerides & bad cholesterol are right where they should be and my good cholesterol is phenomenal. My blood pressure is right where it needs to be and my heart is healthy. According to my doctors they say I am in perfect health. I have a friend who eats nothing but junk food, yet she still weighs 100lbs and is 5’7″. I think it’s sad that a bigger girl is looked at like she must eat everything she sees, but a skinny girl is looked at like she eats delicately. It’s disgusting what society has put into peoples minds.

  • Anon.

    And can you prove that statistic? It’s those like you that make so many people feel bad about the way they look. It’s those like you–those who place unfair judgment on others–that give way to a cruel world. Take a step back and ask yourself, “Do I have a right to judge so harshly others in light of my own shortcomings?” Here’s a clue: the answer is no.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lesley.demattie1 Lesley DeMattie

    Her body is fine. Like mine and most women in America!

  • michelle

    You are the only one who said naturally skinny are hideous… how on earth did you come up with that?

  • David

    if that were the case there would be an awful lot of single fat people in the United States and there aren’t…

  • David

    and there would be no need to plus size wedding dresses

  • David

    a doctor should know how to spell “lose”

  • David

    men and women don’t seem to understand that the majority of porn is violence against women just as the obsession driving this thread is (with using a sexual ideal to sell anything and everything). This violence is widespread but let’s call it what it is … violent/aggressive behavior and THAT is what is UNHEALTHY.

    One can open very few magazines, especially women or teen magazines, and find 3 consecutive pages in which there is not SOME kind of pressure to ‘reshape’ the body. That is aggressive behavior and from what I have noticed, it isn’t men writing the articles. You really do need to first accept and love yourself. When you do, the rest follows, whether you are over the accepted weight or under it. Mental health is just as important as physical health.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Good for her! And besides, she’s not really fat. Just has a few pounds on her. She’s only fat in the twisted world of fashion and style.

  • Over the Road Steve

    I’m a guy, and I think she’s hot. Of course, I think most naked women are hot. Just a prejudice of mine, I guess. I’m warped. I could stand to lose a few pounds myself, though.

  • Over the Road Steve

    She is by no sense of the imagination “obese.” You folks all need to lighten up. She has great breasts and a nice rear. If she is in any way free spirited, she could be a lot of fun. Yeah, I’m talking about sex and I’m not ashamed of it. It would take a pretty conceited man to reject her. Conceited or foolish.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Don’t know about that. Saw a girl with pretty good size hips and thighs at a car show recently in a pair of really short denim shorts and she looked great. The guy with her looked pleased too.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Got to take responsibility, something becoming increasingly rare in today’s America.

  • Over the Road Steve

    One thread that seems to running through all these post is the difficulty women of any size have finding flattering clothes. Keep at it, girls. We appreciate it.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Tall slender girls are foxy.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Tall, slender girls are foxy.

  • Over the Road Steve

    People are eating too much fast food.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Oh, I’ve seen much stupider things on the internet. Go over to the political sites. Why was this so stupid? Be brief.

  • Over the Road Steve

    This dude wears a gold chain.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Tall girls with a few pound on them are sexy.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Aw, c’mon. Don’t reenforce the pornographic large cock fantasy.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Short girls with large, natural breast are foxy. Got to be natural, though.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Finally the attacks on Ayush end. Guy made a lot of friends. Happens when you’re a fool.

  • Over the Road Steve

    I’m not real sure I would care to be young now days.

  • Over the Road Steve

    I’ve always heard that muscle weighs more than fat. Whatever, girls of medium height, nice large breasts, and muscles are foxy.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Good skin: that really tells the tale. A women with nice skin looks good naked, no matter what her weight.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Soon you’ll get out of school, kiddo, and you can leave those fools behind.. Just hang in there and study hard.

  • Over the Road Steve

    This has gotten to be weird. Must be rough that these guys got so many girls chasing after them that they can be so picky. Myself, it they are enthusiastic and a little vocal, I’m cool. Like ‘em all.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Short muscular Indian girls are foxy. Especially the Indian part. Love dark skinned women. Ever notice how a black girl’s skin often has a reddish hue, like fine polished mahogany?

  • Over the Road Steve

    Designers do seem to think that their product looks better on tall, slender, young women. Hangs better, and puts the emphasis on the product.

  • Over the Road Steve

    Naked women are nature’s gift to the human race. That girl looked great.

  • Over the Road Steve

    I will admit, I never thought of that. Do they still air brush models (Playboy was famous for that) or is it all photo shop now days?

  • Over the Road Steve

    Little, slender girls are foxy

  • Over the Road Steve

    You guys all listen to doctors too much. They don’t know as much as they pretend.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gail.g.fitzgerald Gail Grover Fitzgerald

    I am appalled that a physician can’t even spell “losing” correctly. I hope your patients’ weights aren’t getting “looser”. I just hate when that happens!

  • http://www.facebook.com/elesa.harrington E’lesa Harrington

    I think she looks very beautiful and I applaud her confidence to take nude pictures and putting them out there for the world to see. It makes me feel a little more confident as a woman.

  • Tina Grayson

    Buying clothes does not mean you are “pretending to be happy” or “trying to make yourself look different then you are naturally”……Women buy clothes because they need something to wear, obviously. Women wear makeup because it makes them feel beautiful, it doesn’t have to be about changing what they look like. You can feel beautiful in your own skin, and also want to wear beautiful things. And not all plus sized women are overweight. Not only weight factors into what size clothing you wear.

  • hero worship

    Thanks, but I prefer my women, like my steak, lean and lightly seasoned… Cabbage and sloppy potatoes just doesn’t quite fit the bill…

  • Anonymous

    What are you babbling about? There’s *every* chance that the plus-sized model exercises and eats healthily and is MORE healthy than the skinny model. Some fat is healthy. Also, everything I have read suggests that skinny models are likely to be anorexic, bulimic, or a combination of the two. I had two (out of three!) friends in high school who were bulimic, and they weren’t even as thin as most models. Please.

  • Anonymous

    Did your being “naturally” thin include eating one low-fat yogurt a day, and carrot sticks? Because most of the girls I knew who were models did not eat healthily by any definition of the word.

  • Anonymous

    @mkc, fancypants is “obviously” not a physician? Seriously? I doubt if you are! So there. (Someone disagrees with your opinion, so they can’t possibly be a doctor? Seriously!?)

  • Anonymous

    I doubt that mkc is actually a physician.

  • Former Model and Casting Agent

    Come on, I’m a US4/UK8 size former model and when I look at the two girls, it’s obvious to me one is super delicious and the other is shriveled, fragile, dehydrated and utterly unappetizing either as a clothes hanger or mating choice.

    And guess which girl looks more fun to be around, and is ACTUALLY having more fun? Since when self annihilation is sexy?

    Why would anyone find a sick-looking female attractive? Because those queer designers who rule the fashion industry fear fat women as well as anything that reminds them of aging, tell you anorexia is sexy?

  • Happy, healthy, and chubby

    “Can’t be healthy?” Wow I disagree so much I don’t even know where to start. I’m a chubby kid, wearing a 16-20 (Depending on the brand) and had a very extensive blood test done not but a few weeks ago. You know what came back? The cleanest bill of health my doctor had ever seen. NONE of my health problems were attributed to my weight, and likewise, my weight wasn’t giving my any. Health vs Weight is so relative that the argument -no matter what level it’s on- is obsolete. I’m not saying we shouldn’t strive to be healthy, but my sister who weights just over 100 lbs has some seriously medical issues that aren’t fixed overnight, or ever for that matter. I believe a rounder figure can look just as good as a slim one, it’s only when we get into the extremes that you should start worrying about health.

  • Taylor

    I think it is great to love your self for who you are, but this is the wrong way to make it. Any girl can pose nude. Loving your self doesn’t’ t mean you should lose you modesty. Please, to all model’ s no matter what color or shape or size, please remember you are a jewel and you can shine in your jewel case ( clothes)! : )

  • -_-

    How about people leave others to their own damn business and quit always having something smart to say about someone else … if you’re skinny/plus sized and you’re happy – be happy! Quit telling other people what the hell they need to look like and worry about YOURSELF!

  • Say what?

    You sound like an idiot – since when is getting your hair, make-up, and nails done a commodity for thin women only? If that’s the case, an immense amount of thin women must be unhappy too because plenty of them wear make-up … so are they pretending to be happy also by buying expensive clothes and getting their hair done? Buying make-up ENHANCES your looks – you can be plus size and enhance your beauty while still being proud of who you are and the skin you’re in … look at Adele, she’s beautiful and PROUD of who she is … I don’t see her trying to lose weight! She buys clothing according to her size to compliment her body and appears great in them!

  • ditch

    So a size 6 is considered plus size? I guess I’m obese then

  • http://www.facebook.com/ssapienza Stephanie Sapienza

    I would bet money on the following: a) this model is healthier than you,
    b) there are more people that find her attractive than find you attractive and c)
    someone in your youth (or adulthood) picked on you so badly about
    something cosmetic/external that you have a severe complex. Shame on
    you. Its one thing to call out someone who is 290 pounds, but to
    compare that to this (maybe 160-pound?) model is simply asinine and
    makes you look like a petty, insecure imbecile.

  • Chubby Bunny

    Female double standards are ridiculous. Where are these women saying fat guys are hot too? While I agree that these women are very attractive, do women really say the same for “plus-sized” men? No, they don’t.

  • scott

    the so called bigger one is normal size. this whole twig look was started by fashion designers who liked boys and wanted walking coat hangers duh

  • jaundie

    Thanks for the truth and I agree.

  • angels

    At my school the vast majority of the girls are people with tiny body types. Some of them weigh 85 pounds and are 5’0” tall. I’m a healthy 135 lbs and 5’6”. Sometimes, I look at them and feel like I should just go hide because I will NEVER look like them, but then I realize that I should never WANT to, because I am me, and they are themselves. I am healthy and happy and and look great the way I am. Recently, my friend (who is one of these girls) told me that she wished she had curves like me and I told her that she was beautiful. Because she IS beautiful, and I am beautiful, and the models above are BOTH beautiful. Naturally healthy is beautiful. Be happy with who you are.

  • Jackie

    Thank you for your intelligent and beautifully worded response :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/rob.billeaud Rob Billeaud

    I love the plus size model, she is very sexy, as are a lot of “plus size” women, but your comment about it not being calories in – calories out it wrong. If you burn more calories than you take in, you CANNOT gain weight. Calories cannot just manifest themselves out of thin air, or for that matter disappear into thin air. Now, that’s not to say that there are not genetic conditions that can alter the body’s metabolic rate, meaning that the caloric burn is not a vigorous as it should be – which will cause one to gain weight, but to claim that you can consume fewer calories than you burn and not lose weight is ludicrous. Also, I do not equate weight with health. I have met many healthy women who are well over the “ideal” weight as stated by the government. They exhibit less stress by not obsessing over their bodies, eat properly and exercise regularly. That is far better than trying to achieve some specific number and literally killing yourself to get there.

  • kate moore

    Stop having a debate about how when you are skinny u can be healthy too.,alright got that, and when ur fat u can be healthy to .. okay got that. But your missing the message society’s “perfect” body image is super skinny hence why so many people that aren’t that naturally become bulimic and anorexic to fit into that box and all the people who aren’t there feel the need to be there but suffer from low self-esteem creating a low self esteem society that is diseased about the need to be skinny. This is all about we need to change society’s view on all woman’s body types and see then as all beautiful. But sadly as a human race were prone to “the survival of the fittest” so were always competing with each other hence in society there will always be a good body type and a not so good body type so we can compete with each other…. sad but true… all i ask in society is too keep an open mind always.

  • Kat

    and the bmi rating for plus sized models is?

  • meowmix

    Look at those rolls. disgusting

  • http://www.facebook.com/nicole.caraccillo Nicole Francisca Caraccillo

    im 105 5’4 with 2 kids and i eat fast food at least once a day, sit on my ass when im not working day on the internet orwatching tv, so yes it is fine to be that skinny! jeeze!

  • http://www.facebook.com/nicole.caraccillo Nicole Francisca Caraccillo

    Ya your a doctor,my ass!! internet doctor wanna be lmao

  • David Balutanski

    where are the MALE plus sized models?

  • drowization

    The skinny one has no curves at all, and, the bigger one, well thats what most of us are used to seeing per most all of America being fat and way over wieght, but it doesn’t that the larger one is un-healthy….both are pretty though,,,,,

  • rubenesqueselena

    Actually doctors and nurses and most of the public get this wrong all the time. It’s NOT about weight people. It’s about “body fat percentage” or “lean muscle mass” that counts. It’s too damn easy to jump on a scale and make assumptions about health. That tells you nothing; It only tells you the total of muscle, bone, fat, blood etc… Clinical dietitions are among the few who actually measure body fat percentage, not useless weight. How is it that lean musclebound healthy football players can weigh over 300 pounds? Can someone weigh less than 100 pounds and be too fat? Of course. George W. Bush and Tom Cruise are labeled by modern medical establishment as obese!?? Stop talking about weight and start talking about fat.

  • Tom @ WhatWhey.com

    Jennie, why you think they are both ugly? Body type is often genetic and cannot be perfect despite strongest efforts!

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